I need some advise please

[sherry]

hello,
I just got a baby cornsnake, after weeks of talking my mom into it she finaly let me get one. and i never had one i never thought i would but i really bonded with the one i have and i cant ever put her down. and when im home from work shes in my hand(atleast i think its a she), but im having dificulties and i dont no if its mormal or not cuz i never had one and i dont want to kill her or anything. the first time we got her and she ate perfectly but it was 2 frozen pinkies, and i got her alive one but i guess it was to big cuz she threw it up whole the same way she swallowed it. and then she didnt eat, and i finally got her to eat after trying for 2 weeks. but i noticed when i got her there was a blue spot on her stumic, and she had stuff in her, and her belly isnt even it look like little bumps that you cant notic to you really examin her, but i dont no what it is or anything and just had her for 3 weeks and i love her and i dont wanna loose her so any one no what i can do, i would post what the blue spot looks like but she just ate and i dont want her to through up another pinkie and she only ate one so any sugestion if this happends again, or do you know what the blue spot is, or the lumps are,or anything, or show i call a vet? she iasnt active either, shes a baby but all she does is sleep, i never shee her drinking water, or out in her cage shes always in her cave i pick her up and put her in her water before she drinks and then she drnks a lot, but at the pet store i seen them out in the open and never in a cage and shes really calm and everything and i have rocks in her cage, what should i do, man i need help, thank you
sherry

 

[Spirit]

Do you know what the temperature is in your tank (the #1 cause of reptile illness)? What is the hot side, and what is the cold side. Also, how often do you feed her (how did you thaw the pinkies)? Don't handle your snake for 2 days after feeding (this can and usually does cause regurgitation), and always wait at LEAST a week to 10 days before trying to feed again if she throws it up, as her stomach needs time to heal. If you're seeing blue spots on her belly, it's POSSIBLE that the stomach contents are rotting which could be a result from insufficiant heat (and also a reason why she's throwing it up). Since she's still little, I know it's hard, but try not to handle her TOO much, as being outside of the tank is of course a much lower temp. Heat is essential to proper digestion.

Some snakes are by nature hiders. Don't worry too much about the inactivity in the tank, if she's alert and moves around (flicks her tongue a lot) on your hand.

A good idea would be to pick up the book "The Corn Snake Manual" by Kathy and Bill Love, if you haven't already. Good luck.

 

[marg]

hiya sherry :wavey:

SLOW DOWN...........TAKE A DEEP BREATH............NOW!

congrats on your baby corn.

from what you have said everything sounds normal to me......more experienced ones will soon help you out.

the blue on her stomach and the lumps might be just that.........her stomach with food in it
regurges can happen with stress........did you give her a few days to settle in before you 'held her all the time'
babies DO sleep ...for 2 or 3 days after eating.....that is when they are digesting their food.
the stomach needs to rest 7-10 days after a regurge to help prevent problems.
i think thats enough to begin with
just chill, observe and enjoy your baby.......it gets easier......

thank you

 

[sherry]

Hello,
my cage stayes arround 75-85 degrees, unless my mom thinks she knows it and turn off the heater saying a book she read says they digest fast when its cold and that i should treat it like its in the wild and then we fight because i cant turn off the heater and have her freeze my room is the coldest room in the house and i will keep the heater on so she has somewear warm if it get cold, i have the cornsnake manual, but it says nothing about a blue spot or lumps, and it does say have a heating pad under 1 side of the take so i do and i have her rock on the side were the heating pad is and shes always there. and i give her fresh water one a day or every other day sometimes to. and i dont touch her till 3 days after shes eatien just to make sure she did her thing, and she did grow a little ill post a pic of her when i get my computer fixed. and she hasnt shed eather how often do they shed cuz my mom sad she ready they are suppose to shed every 2 times they eat. and its cold and its winter were im at so could that be a possiblity that shes not eating cuz she only ate 1 pinky and it took her like a hour just to go after it and she didnt touch the other one.and how do u know to feed them a bigger mouse? and are they suppose to vomit up bones? cuz i was holding it 3 days after i fed it and she stuck her head off of my hand and opend her mouth and barfed up what looked like a bunch of bones in a sack but it wasnt a mouse.
so the blue spot might be her intestants rotting? why would they rot, would it be painful for her, how can i stop it should i take her to a vet, what do i do. :shrugs: help
sherry

 

[Jicin]

Your mom's wrong. They need heat in order to digest. If it's to cold the food is regurged. If she doesn't believe you, show her this forum. At night temps shouldn't drop under 18 degrees. If she's always on the warmest spot in the viv, temps may be raised a bit. Juveline corns should be fed each 5 - 7 days. Though they won't die if you give them less, it would surely stun their growth. And that also means they'll shed less often. Wich ends in a malnurished snake.

If she regurged on your hand, you held her to soon. Wait a bit longer next time. Don't forget, wait 7 - 10 days before feeding again.

I would definately take your snake to a vet. And take your mother with you. Obviously, she knows absolutely nothing about snakes. And you do but she's holding you back. Let a reptile vetrenarian tell her how a snake should be cared for. Point her to this site or print our some care sheets. If your mother refuses to let you give the snake proper care give the snake to someome else. Sad, but choose what's best for the snake.

 

[Spirit]

What do you mean by 75-85? Do you mean it stays 85 on the hot side, 75 on the cool? The stomach contents will rot if there is insuffucuant heat. Do you have a heat lamp as well as a pad? A hide on both sides (at least)? Have you tried holding her up to the water to see if she'll drink (commenting in that you've never seen her drink). I'm SURE she does when you're not looking, but if it gives you peace of mine to hold her up to some water, then just do that. I've never seen mine drink on his own, but he never refuses water if he's in my hand.

Everything sounds perfectly normal, and you seem to be doing all the right things and asking all the right questions. As for your mom... don't get mad. Get educated! Sounds like mom may need to do a little research. My only concern right now is the heat. Being handled outside of the cage maybe too much (getting too cold) or insufficiant heat inside the tank (with your mom turning it off, etc). The temps you mentioned are perfect though, so no need to worry yourself.

As for the feeding, don't stress out if she doesn't want to take the pinky right away. Some people wait 2 weeks before even attemtpting to feed after a regurg to give their stomachs time to heal and create less stress on their next meal.

It'll all be good. Breeeaaaathe.

 

[sherry]

ya i waited a week before i fed her again. and i have a picture up of her i took a while ago, and ill take her to the vet as soo as i get paid to see what that spot is, she doesnt seem to be in pain, and shes active in my hand at times and sometimes she just like to chill and not move and she loves to hide in my shirt pockets. shes a real sweaty. how do i know what kind of cornsnake she is. the pet store never told me. and she had that slue spot since i had wich wich on thursday would be a whole month . and i do have a heat lamp and a heating pad, and i have a rock that she hides in on the heated side and a long paper towl cardbord thing barried on the cold side and a big pink rock that she can curl up in the middle and a waterdish and i see her in the hiding things and i usualy dont no wear she is but when its a clear day she usualy goes between the pink rock and the cardbord holder, but when its cold she goes to the heating pad. and when she startes getting cold in my hands i cuf my hand together and put my hand agains my shirt and she goes in my hand till shes warm then she peeks out then comes out and plays, and she absolutly loves kids and her little toung is always going. and thank you guys for the help i sooo needed it
sherry

 

[Spirit]

Aw Sherry, you're doing JUST FINE. A vet visit is always a good idea, but try not to worry.

As for what kind of corn... post a pic. Someone here will know for sure. So damn smart, these people are.

EDIT: CORN! CORN! I meant corn. Not porn. Oh man, I need sleep. :laugh:

 

[sherry]

i have a pic up right under my name she is cute and tinny and very loving and sweet and very smart. what was funny was im just now getting my mom to wear she will hold it. my mom i s afraid of snakes and i had a adult one arround my neck in the pet store and my mom seen it and started hyperventlilating and screaming and ran out, but eventualy and lots of talking and exsplning and taking her back she agreed a aby is fine so i can raise it and it be use to me and what i do and so on so i agreed and got one wich im glad cuz i love my baby moreand then i started bringing the baby out and arround her and i let her touch it and then she started letting it run accrost her hand then i informed her that its a god idea to breath while holding the snake so she dont pass out and this morning the snake started crawling up her arm and mom was all sherry get her sherry SHERRY o it was funy and slinky(the snake) was just cilling on her it was pritty funny. she likes to be out and on a nice day i took her out to show a little girl next door and slinky didnt mind at all.shes a wonderful snake i love her and when she gets a little bigger im gonna let her cill arround my neck i think shes to small right now, shes only like a foot.but she loves my pockest and when my hands are cuffed and its so cute when my hands are cuffed she sticks out her little head and flickes her toung out andstayes like that for a while its so cute ill take more pics when shes done digesting

 

[pcar]

Aw Sherry, you're doing JUST FINE. A vet visit is always a good idea, but try not to worry.

As for what kind of corn... post a pic. Someone here will know for sure. So damn smart, these people are.

EDIT: CORN! CORN! I meant corn. Not porn. Oh man, I need sleep. :laugh:

Saw that before you edited it...wow...Thanks for the edit though. I am sure that would have caught a lot of eyes here.

Sherry, I would deffinately take your corn to the vet. Something else to do would be to take a fresh drop of poo with you so that the vet can check this too. The vet can look for internal parisites and such this way a lot easier than with the whole snake.

 

[pcar]

Your Avatar is a little blurry, but it looks like either a normal or a hypo to me.

 

[Cindy]

Be extra careful she doesn't escape, your wouldn't believe how small a gap they can escape from. As your snake is quite light coloured the 'blue' spot you can see is possibly her liver. Good luck with her.

 

[Spirit]

then i started bringing the baby out and arround her and i let her touch it and then she started letting it run accrost her hand then i informed her that its a god idea to breath while holding the snake so she dont pass out and this morning the snake started crawling up her arm and mom was all sherry get her sherry SHERRY o it was funy and slinky(the snake) was just cilling on her it was pritty funny.

Just a thought, but maybe you shouldn't let your mom handle her just yet. That kind of "panic" can be very stressful for snakes (ditto with the taking her out to show people - esp if the temps outside are below 20-25C), even though your Slinky (great name) seems to have no problems with this... I'm just thinking it would help (for now) to keep that sort of thing to a minumum. I know it's hard to not handle them all the time... I mean the more time you give them the better, but at the same time the well being of the snake has to be taken into concideration. Though I do think it's GREAT that your mom is trying.

Anwyay... I could be way off here, but that's just my $0.02.

Paul: Could you imagine? :laugh: Please no one post corn snake porn. Thank you. lol

 

[pcar]

Paul: Could you imagine? Please no one post corn snake porn. Thank you. lol

If you ever breed, you will get plenty of it.

 

[sherry]

thank you ya im taking her to the vet when i get paid, so i can aford the vet bill, i just hope its not over $400 even so shes worth it. does the type of snake matter with how active it is. i have to older sisters and they have a snake to, my oldest sister brandy has a corn but its always biting her and she literally has to have gardening gloves on to pick it up how can she stop that?, they want me to look at it but i dont no what to look for, im so not a exspert, and i dont feel like being bit. and her snakes is active and y snake is older then her and mine sleeps, and brandy has a corsnake to and my seldond oldest sister mandy have a ball python and hers is calm in the day and active in the night and doesnt bite and likes to chill arround your neck, her and my snake are calm when being held but fast in the tank. is that normal, and what should brandy do for her snake to chill it down on the biting, she holds it everyday but it trys to escape from her hand and bites her and she was holding it in the pet store and it didnt do that it just did it when she got home the 2nd day to the first day it was normal, wuts caused the sudden personality change
sherry

 

[sherry]

lol my mom said i cant breed her and i dont no if i want to i dont no if it hange her or anything so ya

 

[Spirit]

If you ever breed, you will get plenty of it.

Someday, Paul. Someday.

(though my next purchase will more than likely be a ball. Corns poop a LOT.)

 

[Azruial]

night temps shouldn't drop under 18 degrees.

I would assume Jicin meant Celcius, since 18 Farenheight and you have a Corn Snake Ice Pop! That is about 65 F I believe which is a bit chilly but, like Jicin said, that's the minimum.
can the limps be mites? just sounds like what I have heard here.

 

[pcar]

Someday, Paul. Someday.

(though my next purchase will more than likely be a ball. Corns poop a LOT.)

I believe that...at least from what you have said here...but what makes you think that the BP that you get won't do the same thing? Just because someone else's snake doesn't, doesn't Necessarily mean that your's will do the same.

Sherry, the best thing I can tell you to tell your sister is to look at husbandry...how is the environment that the snake is kept in? Are all conditions correct for proper health of the snake? And, holding the snake and getting the snake used to you is the ony way to calm one down. Point her to this site and tell her to join so that she can read and ask her own questions.

 

[pcar]

I would assume Jicin meant Celcius, since 18 Farenheight and you have a Corn Snake Ice Pop! That is about 65 F I believe which is a bit chilly but, like Jicin said, that's the minimum.
can the limps be mites? just sounds like what I have heard here.

Mites are usually on the outside of the animal and pretty easy to see. Snake mites are black in color and look like pepper on a snake. if the lumps on Sherry's snake can't be seen, but felt, then it is an internal problem, and could be caused by internal parasites. Thus taking Slinky to the Vet is the best course of action.