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naked snakes

That looks like it could be painful for the snake. It looks like a large blister or scab. I bet they would have problems getting sunburned too.
 
I totally agree with everything you said. I hope this never becomes a corn snake morph. I think that this is something that is on the horizon just like leucism. If you read some of the posts from the site with the ball python a lot of people thought the snakes should be euthenised. I agree with them. i am usually against euthanasia but the snakes quality of life must be terrible. From what I understand they have trouble shedding, they get easily sun burned, and are very susceptible to infections. I don't ever want to see this with corn snakes, but somebody is probably working creating a scaleless corn snake right now. This is when messing with genetics goes to far. I'm speaking to the breeders specifically please don't let this happen. Just so you know i added the smiley to make the post a little less depressing. :)
 
no snake should be "euthanised" unless its suffering.. if the snake is living a normal life.. let it live... but something with this "mutation" should ~not~ be grown to BREED. if the breeder has no room for it. sell it as a PET or to a ZOO..
 
I only posted the health related issues I know of, there are probably several more.
This kind of genetic tampering is irresponsible and unethical.
Maybe it doesn't warrant euthenasia but the snakes can not be living a normal life.
 
(not attaking you) but can you prove the snake isnt living normal?

That snake just has a genetic flaw.. in some sence like a "midget" in our "world"

most live healthy lives even tho there genetics arent the same as ours..

im hesitant to call them "different" because i dont like to discriminate. but they live normaly in most cases.. so i dont see any reason "naked" snakes would have any problem.. exspecialy in captivity :cool:

just my 2 cents.
 
Tis a minefield of a topic this one as I know 95% of the people reading this will think it's abhorrent...

Playing devil's advocate though, have you never thought to compare it to nude rats, chinese crested dogs, or sphynx cats?

It will be a pet in captivity for the duration of its life, and so as with the other examples above it will have allowances made for its care and husbandry.

Whomever suggested to put it to sleep needs to seriously take a look at your morals - does this mean you also think that disabled people need to be euthanised too?

The animal has never known 'normal' - so this IS normal for him.

Normal fear reactions are human when we come across something we have not seen before, it is our duty not to listen to such basic impulses and to recognise it as another of God's creatures that needs care.
 
RyanR said:
no snake should be "euthanised" unless its suffering.. if the snake is living a normal life.. let it live... but something with this "mutation" should ~not~ be grown to BREED. if the breeder has no room for it. sell it as a PET or to a ZOO..
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I understand what you and others are saying, but how do you police whether or not these snakes are bred? You can't. It's like the one-eyed and no-eyed mutation(s) in boas. It only takes a few irresponsible, opportunistic hobbyists who think it's "cool" to introduce a gene like this into the captive pool. After it's established, good luck getting rid of it. If I ever hatch out a scaleless snake, I'll snap a few photos, and then it'll be off to the fridge/freezer. I don't care who would pay what for it.

And I don't think the midget analogy is valid. There's a world of difference between a "special needs" human and a "special needs" snake. Let's keep things in perspective.
 
I actually thought the ball python looked rather nice, however, I do wonder if he would need a gentler substrate, or if his exposed skin was more sensitive. I wouldn't breed such a trait, but if I were to hatch one, I'd keep him as an oddity.
 
Roy Munson said:
If I ever hatch out a scaleless snake, I'll snap a few photos, and then it'll be off to the fridge/freezer. I don't care who would pay what for it.
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I'm sure that is what apes and monkeys think of us naked primates! We shouldn't have been allowed to breed! But darn if we don't populate the earth now.

Being realistic, since they will never be out in the wild I don't see why not let them live. If they don't show any shedding difficulties or other "medical" type problems I don't see a reason why to not breed them as long as one was careful not to inbreed too much. I'm sure the naked snakes would benefit from a softer substrate, I wouldn't want my naked skin rubbing on rough wood shavings.

Speaking of naked animals, I have totally hairless dogs called American Hairless Terriers. But unlike the snakes I have them because I am allergic to hairy dogs. Like humans they wear clothes when it gets cold or to protect from sun. But their skin tans just like humans and need consideration just like if you had a human toddler running around. You can read more about hairless dogs here http://www.sweet-lucys.com/hairlessdogs/americanhairlessterrier.html I admit they are not for everyone, but for people that can finally have a dog they are a miracle.
Silvia
 
Roy Munson said:
I understand what you and others are saying, but how do you police whether or not these snakes are bred? You can't. It's like the one-eyed and no-eyed mutation(s) in boas. It only takes a few irresponsible, opportunistic hobbyists who think it's "cool" to introduce a gene like this into the captive pool. After it's established, good luck getting rid of it. If I ever hatch out a scaleless snake, I'll snap a few photos, and then it'll be off to the fridge/freezer. I don't care who would pay what for it.

And I don't think the midget analogy is valid. There's a world of difference between a "special needs" human and a "special needs" snake. Let's keep things in perspective.
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I agree with everything you said. I personally against this kind of genetic mutation I think that messing with the animal to much. These snakes do have problems shedding and get infections very easy. I think that this is wrong and I feel the same about the one eyed and no eyed boas and for breeding any animal morph which effects its physical makeup this much. But I dont want this to turn into an argument about ethics in morality. I just wanted to show you a picture of what I thought was somehting really strange.
 
Raiden The Almighty said:
... somehting really strange.
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"Creepy" was actually the first word that popped into my head. I'm in the ranks of those who hope this doesn't show up in the corn community.
 
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