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- Thread starter herpcrazy
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SnakeLover#1
Livin life an loven corns
what kind of tips re u looking for????????
PSYCOSNAKEMOM
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This has been a concern for others~~~~:~
Dear herpcrazy, Other young people have brought up this concern and the forum members have come up with a list. I don't remember if it has been a topic in the new set up or the old. Try putting it in the search and see if you can come up with the list. I know that Dr. Mike gave a good start with the TEN BEST REASON'S and others have added to it with ways to approach parents. I think that if you get your parents on this site and they read some of the comments/level of investment/ respectful conversations and other things about cornsnakes they will start to have a better understanding of the pluses to having a pet cornsnake. Good Luck, Sam ~~~~~~:~
Dear herpcrazy, Other young people have brought up this concern and the forum members have come up with a list. I don't remember if it has been a topic in the new set up or the old. Try putting it in the search and see if you can come up with the list. I know that Dr. Mike gave a good start with the TEN BEST REASON'S and others have added to it with ways to approach parents. I think that if you get your parents on this site and they read some of the comments/level of investment/ respectful conversations and other things about cornsnakes they will start to have a better understanding of the pluses to having a pet cornsnake. Good Luck, Sam ~~~~~~:~
13mur 6
Junior Researcher, MSKCC
K, I've been through this one already....
I think the biggest problem young herpers have is getting their parents to acknowledge their abilities (or prove to them that they are capable of raising a living breathing thing). The fact is most young people can't (statistics say 82% of children under the age of 16 can't even properly raise a cat on their own), raising a small delicate animal is a complex and taxing ordeal to everyone.
However, there are those few gifted individuals who have the ability to become successful herpers even at a very young age. They either have an innate understanding of the needs of the snake, or they read an absolute ton of material on animal husbandry and biology (and understand).
If you've read up on the material, and understand this snake can cost you a fortune in the long run, sure go out and knock yourself out (but understand you'll be borderline broke most of the time, like I did to myself when I was 10. I'm serious, once I had around $100, but it all went down the drain after a vet visit. Before I ever had a snake I had a constant $500 in a small stash, after I had a few crinkled $1 bills in there).
However, if you can't answer basic husbandry questions like, what temps should I keep the snake at, or what do they eat, or what happens when a snake sheds, what should I have in a snake tank, then I would reconsider about getting a snake.
In my experience, even adults who've read up on snakes and take their snakes to their vets if they have problems end up killing their snakes from simple mistakes due to lack of common sense. Unless your an exceptionally gifted 11 year old, I'm not all too certain whether you'll fair any better than the average adult.
Also, just as a reconcilliation, most people don't get to own a snake until they're 20 years old. It's extremely rare to have anyone younger than 18 years of age to own a snake (and maintain it properly). I think there was a recent poll on this, the average age last time I checked was something like 30-40 years old.
Sorry for the long post, but it pains me everytime a young one wants to own a snake, since it either means peril for the snake, peril for the young one, peril for the young one's parents (especially if those parents do not like snakes), or most of the time all three.
Some evil parents actually try to attempt to kill the snake and make it look like an accident, or just by accident end up killing the snake ("oh I was vacuuming and I put the snake cage on the window sill." "But mom, didn't you know snakes die if left in the sunlight for more than 15 minutes!?!?").
Also, don't forget the rumors their heads are filled with (oh all snakes are venomous, oh, snakes can sting you with their tongues, oh that snake is gonna come out late at night and strangle your neck while you're sleeping, oh that snake is going to come out late at night and bite your pee-wee off, oh that snake is gonna come out late at night and crawl up your butt, snakes are the devil, etc).
Think this one through, and if you're up for the challenge, then educating your parents is the first step. Like PSYCOSNAKEMON said, get them to read these forums (get them to look at the pictures in the pics gallery! They'll gape at how pretty these things are).
-13mur 6
I think the biggest problem young herpers have is getting their parents to acknowledge their abilities (or prove to them that they are capable of raising a living breathing thing). The fact is most young people can't (statistics say 82% of children under the age of 16 can't even properly raise a cat on their own), raising a small delicate animal is a complex and taxing ordeal to everyone.
However, there are those few gifted individuals who have the ability to become successful herpers even at a very young age. They either have an innate understanding of the needs of the snake, or they read an absolute ton of material on animal husbandry and biology (and understand).
If you've read up on the material, and understand this snake can cost you a fortune in the long run, sure go out and knock yourself out (but understand you'll be borderline broke most of the time, like I did to myself when I was 10. I'm serious, once I had around $100, but it all went down the drain after a vet visit. Before I ever had a snake I had a constant $500 in a small stash, after I had a few crinkled $1 bills in there).
However, if you can't answer basic husbandry questions like, what temps should I keep the snake at, or what do they eat, or what happens when a snake sheds, what should I have in a snake tank, then I would reconsider about getting a snake.
In my experience, even adults who've read up on snakes and take their snakes to their vets if they have problems end up killing their snakes from simple mistakes due to lack of common sense. Unless your an exceptionally gifted 11 year old, I'm not all too certain whether you'll fair any better than the average adult.
Also, just as a reconcilliation, most people don't get to own a snake until they're 20 years old. It's extremely rare to have anyone younger than 18 years of age to own a snake (and maintain it properly). I think there was a recent poll on this, the average age last time I checked was something like 30-40 years old.
Sorry for the long post, but it pains me everytime a young one wants to own a snake, since it either means peril for the snake, peril for the young one, peril for the young one's parents (especially if those parents do not like snakes), or most of the time all three.
Some evil parents actually try to attempt to kill the snake and make it look like an accident, or just by accident end up killing the snake ("oh I was vacuuming and I put the snake cage on the window sill." "But mom, didn't you know snakes die if left in the sunlight for more than 15 minutes!?!?").
Also, don't forget the rumors their heads are filled with (oh all snakes are venomous, oh, snakes can sting you with their tongues, oh that snake is gonna come out late at night and strangle your neck while you're sleeping, oh that snake is going to come out late at night and bite your pee-wee off, oh that snake is gonna come out late at night and crawl up your butt, snakes are the devil, etc).
Think this one through, and if you're up for the challenge, then educating your parents is the first step. Like PSYCOSNAKEMON said, get them to read these forums (get them to look at the pictures in the pics gallery! They'll gape at how pretty these things are).
-13mur 6
fateamber
New member
It was my parents that first sugested i could have a snake but they then changed thie minds, but what i try to do is to mention it 2 or 3 times daily but DON'T nag your parents you could also try every so often just talking about corn snakes in general and saying how big they get try to say the minimum size instead of the maximum. I should soon (ish) be getting a royal (ball) python but my parents have now said that two snakes is the maximum!
SnakeLover#1
Livin life an loven corns
son
I have a son that is 12 years old and has had reptiles(2 leopard geckos 1 bearded dragon and 2 kingsnakes) since he was 9 all of witch are still alive and are very healthy and happy.Before he buys a pet he allways reads much about that perticular species.I dont even help him with his reptiles he does every thing right,he doesent need help,he keeps the temps straght has a feading schdule for all his animals,and is very loving to them.He has allways loved reptiles and he is the one who got me into reptiles.Some times i have to ask him for advice.
I think if you do pleanty of resurch before you buy your new snake you would be a fine pet owner.
I have a son that is 12 years old and has had reptiles(2 leopard geckos 1 bearded dragon and 2 kingsnakes) since he was 9 all of witch are still alive and are very healthy and happy.Before he buys a pet he allways reads much about that perticular species.I dont even help him with his reptiles he does every thing right,he doesent need help,he keeps the temps straght has a feading schdule for all his animals,and is very loving to them.He has allways loved reptiles and he is the one who got me into reptiles.Some times i have to ask him for advice.
I think if you do pleanty of resurch before you buy your new snake you would be a fine pet owner.
CowBoyWay
Cocked & Unlocked member
Heres a link to a similar inquiry...
I found by using the search here for "Parents" and "responsible".
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1381&highlight=Parents+responsible:)
13mur 6, aren't you a bubble popper, but I must say, some good advice given, not what he wanted to hear, I'm sure, but good advice.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. (never understood that when I was a kid.)
You very well can handle the responsibility, I would read and read and read some more and project your keen interest in Corn Snakes to your parents that way.
Does your Science Dept. at school have snakes? Volunteer to care for the schools reptiles to expand your hands on knowledge.
Join and attend meetings of your local "herp" Society and gain more knowledge. It might take awhile for them to "come around" but maybe that'll impress them enough to allow you your "first" Corn Snake.
Don't call it your first though, it'll spook em
I found by using the search here for "Parents" and "responsible".
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1381&highlight=Parents+responsible:)
13mur 6, aren't you a bubble popper, but I must say, some good advice given, not what he wanted to hear, I'm sure, but good advice.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. (never understood that when I was a kid.)
You very well can handle the responsibility, I would read and read and read some more and project your keen interest in Corn Snakes to your parents that way.
Does your Science Dept. at school have snakes? Volunteer to care for the schools reptiles to expand your hands on knowledge.
Join and attend meetings of your local "herp" Society and gain more knowledge. It might take awhile for them to "come around" but maybe that'll impress them enough to allow you your "first" Corn Snake.
Don't call it your first though, it'll spook em
13mur 6
Junior Researcher, MSKCC
Oh sorries if I came off wrong. Just trying to get the lil guy to think some.
(ever wonder why the hell you bought that $2,000 vase? or that dumb squeaky lawn ornament? or that windchime that drives you nuts at night? or how about that amplifier for your stereo system that's so powerful you can only put the volume notch on 1 before seeing debris fall from your ceiling? or that 200lb lizard? maybe I wasn't thinking when I bought it... the wonders of human thought).
-13mur 6
(ever wonder why the hell you bought that $2,000 vase? or that dumb squeaky lawn ornament? or that windchime that drives you nuts at night? or how about that amplifier for your stereo system that's so powerful you can only put the volume notch on 1 before seeing debris fall from your ceiling? or that 200lb lizard? maybe I wasn't thinking when I bought it... the wonders of human thought).
-13mur 6
Ghost
New member
Parents....yak
When the showdown with my parents finally came in regards to my reptiles I used the argument of having the reptiles as a genuine hobby and that this is a legitamite interest and possible future career. I accused them of not supporting me in my areas of interest yet with any other member of the family they would pay top dollar for that persons sport or equipment meanwhile I'd be paying for (and still do) all things related to my reptiles. For example I just spent $200 getting my iguana x-rayed to see the eggs in her and see if she can lay them. Try that argument. Might work.
When the showdown with my parents finally came in regards to my reptiles I used the argument of having the reptiles as a genuine hobby and that this is a legitamite interest and possible future career. I accused them of not supporting me in my areas of interest yet with any other member of the family they would pay top dollar for that persons sport or equipment meanwhile I'd be paying for (and still do) all things related to my reptiles. For example I just spent $200 getting my iguana x-rayed to see the eggs in her and see if she can lay them. Try that argument. Might work.
Cornmash
New member
I personaly think it is very benificial for a kid to have a pet of somekind. Someone bought up the point that most kids can't even take care of themselvs.
It has been my observation with my children that having pets of their own to care for has increased their ability to take care of themselves. It sets a pattern of caring for another living thing and therefor increases your own self awareness.
It not only teaches them responsibility but to care for someone they are ultimately responsible for, and in some cases it teaches them that death is certian in this world.
Tell your parents that you want something of your own to raise and care for, something that you can be proud of raising. If they say no to a snake tell them you want a Great Dane and let thim think of the money for food and the poo they will be cleaning up with that kind of pet!
It has been my observation with my children that having pets of their own to care for has increased their ability to take care of themselves. It sets a pattern of caring for another living thing and therefor increases your own self awareness.
It not only teaches them responsibility but to care for someone they are ultimately responsible for, and in some cases it teaches them that death is certian in this world.
Tell your parents that you want something of your own to raise and care for, something that you can be proud of raising. If they say no to a snake tell them you want a Great Dane and let thim think of the money for food and the poo they will be cleaning up with that kind of pet!