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Pewters?

DocJess

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I'm new to the genetics/morphs topic. If anyone has a good resource, text or website, I sure could use a shove in the right direction!

Anyways, I have a late 2002 Charcoal male who's looking pretty eager, and I'd love to find him a mate. I understand that Bloodreds combined with Charcoal create Pewters. If I find him a nice Bloodred girlfriend, should I look for an amel, A or B? Does it matter? And do you get Pewters in the first generation? Can anyone give me the genotypic breakdown for a Charcoal x Bloodred? I have no idea if my Charcoal is het for anything.

Thanks in advance.
 
A Charcoal carries two copies (homozygous) of the Anery B (or Charcoal) gene.
A Bloodred is homozygous for the Bloodred trait, though there's some selective breeding in there as well...
A Pewter is homozygous for the Anery B gene AND the Bloodred trait.

Therefore, if you want to produce pewters, you should breed one of three things to your Charcoal:

1. A bloodred.
2. A bloodred heterozygous (carrying one copy of the charcoal gene) for pewter.
3. A pewter.

None will get you pewters in the first generation. Breeding the first generation with eachother stands a chance of yielding pewters in the second generation. If you use a Pewter with your Charcoal, your chances for more pewters in the second generation will be the best.

Using your charcoal, there is no way to get pewters in the first generation, assuming your charcoal is not het for bloodred.

-Kat
 
Thanks

Thanks, I wasn't sure how bloodred was inherited.

So If I understand right, a Charcoal x Bloodred in F1 will yield 100% hets for Charcoal and Bloodred ... would the phenotype be normal or ?? From what I've read, the bloodreds do some outcrossing ... so maybe the F1's aren't exactly normal looking. Am I on the right track?

I've read through Serpwidget's genetics primer, which was helpful, but it'd be nice to find something like a "cookbook" for corns (umm, no not in a cruel way!) but a guide that says breed x with y = z, or to make a z you need x and y. Mick's progeny predictor does that to some extent but it's not up to date on newer morphs.
 
Re: Thanks

DocJess said:
Thanks, I wasn't sure how bloodred was inherited.

So If I understand right, a Charcoal x Bloodred in F1 will yield 100% hets for Charcoal and Bloodred ... would the phenotype be normal or ?? From what I've read, the bloodreds do some outcrossing ... so maybe the F1's aren't exactly normal looking. Am I on the right track?

Yeah you are correct, the F1's would be "normal looking" maybe less checks on the belly than other normals. But for the most part they would look normal
 
Re: Thanks

DocJess said:
I've read through Serpwidget's genetics primer, which was helpful, but it'd be nice to find something like a "cookbook" for corns (umm, no not in a cruel way!) but a guide that says breed x with y = z, or to make a z you need x and y. Mick's progeny predictor does that to some extent but it's not up to date on newer morphs.
My morph library is useful for that, or at least it lists the named combinations of stuff. Opal (for Amel Lavender) is not in there though... I need to update the site.

http://serpwidgets.com/cornsnakes/morphs/morphs.html
 
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