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prob off topic, but snake id please

jrobinson

J&M Herp Shack
Could someone please id this snake for me, seems like it may be some type of garter, a buddy of mine caught it in his yard and brought it to me to help him figure out what it was... any help would be appreciated...

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think you may be right mbdorfer, just looked it up in "The Audubon Society Field Guide to North American Reptiles and Anphibians"... the patterns and head shape look just like the specimin he found.... thanx a bunch...
 
Ah yep, Northern Brown Snake. I found one a year or so ago, and having lived in the area all my life and never having seen one, I was rather interested myself. Mine was only 9" long when I found it, and apparently that's their normal size range. Not a monster of a snake like a black rat snake would be.

They're related to garters and eat the same type of food. But their passion I found out is slugs. I kept mine for a month or so till the novelty of bug hunting got old and then re-released it back where I found it down by a creek running through the cow pasture.

Curiously, they're a live-bearer like garters as well. The one I had was a very docile snake that didn't mind being handled.

Nelly:
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And considering the time of year, I wouldn't rule out that it wasn't pregnant. Like I said, they're live-bearers, and perhaps the signature traits of gravidity in egg laying snakes is significantly different in a live-bearer. Perhaps someone who owns garters and has been witness to their reproduction could shed some light. But I agree, the area of the body that houses the reproductive system does look a bit more plump than everywhere else.

Are you guys going to return it to the wild? I didn't have the heart to keep mine any longer than a month, it just seemed like a wild spirit caged up. =(
 
just a note

looked like a brown snake to me too, but it can sometimes be difficult to tell via photo.
They do love slugs!!!!!!
What I was going to say was....That is about as big as they get so it could have been gravid and the coolest part is...they give birth to live young.
Talk about some tiny little babies. They are about 3 inches long and as big around as a piece of yarn.
 
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