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divapixie

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Would anyone happen to know what on earth a hypo anery lavendar would look like? I was browsing through the for sale snakes and started to wonder where I really want to concentrate my breeding projects in the future. Just curious...
 
I know Nige (cornmorphs on here) has produced some. Might be worth PMing him to beg for some pictures :)
 
Generally speaking, anery lavenders are not very visually appealing compared to a lavender. I suspect that a hypo anery lav, will look much like a hypo lav. It would be worth far more genotypically, than phenotypically. My personal opinion, would be that it would not be worth the trouble to produce one, much less prove that you have produced one.
 
I don't totally agree, because the lack of pink makes anery lavs appeal to me. But then they look like a really nice silvery ghost. Hmmm,. but then I could just get a ghost, Mike, you're right!
 
diamondlil said:
I don't totally agree, because the lack of pink makes anery lavs appeal to me. But then they look like a really nice silvery ghost. Hmmm,. but then I could just get a ghost, Mike, you're right!

BUT, hypo is what makes coral snows so PINK. If hypo returns the pink to that aner animal, it might just do it to an aner lavender, too. Might. If it has pink (from the hypo), then I agree with Mike (as much as I hate to say that) - it'll probably look pretty similar to a "clean" hypo lavender. If it doesn't bring back the pink, it might look very similar to some of the "ice ghosts" that I have seen.

I have seen many lavenders lighter than many hypo lavenders and MANY hypo lavenders that look NOTHING like a hypo. They are ID'ed by everyone as a regular lavender. I suspect that this same variability would come across to the hypo aner lavenders where some didn't look hypo at all, and others looked lighter but may or may not develop the pink with age.

Might be worth it if someone is curious, but the whole aner lavender idea, I believe, is a lot of time & effort for results that aren't that outstanding. Of course, I feel that way sometimes about all these "stripe bloodred project" cornsnakes, too, but I still wortk with those! LOL.

KJ
 
KJUN said:
BUT, hypo is what makes coral snows so PINK. If hypo returns the pink to that aner animal, it might just do it to an aner lavender, too. Might. If it has pink (from the hypo), then I agree with Mike (as much as I hate to say that) - it'll probably look pretty similar to a "clean" hypo lavender. If it doesn't bring back the pink, it might look very similar to some of the "ice ghosts" that I have seen.

I have seen many lavenders lighter than many hypo lavenders and MANY hypo lavenders that look NOTHING like a hypo. They are ID'ed by everyone as a regular lavender. I suspect that this same variability would come across to the hypo aner lavenders where some didn't look hypo at all, and others looked lighter but may or may not develop the pink with age.

Might be worth it if someone is curious, but the whole aner lavender idea, I believe, is a lot of time & effort for results that aren't that outstanding. Of course, I feel that way sometimes about all these "stripe bloodred project" cornsnakes, too, but I still wortk with those! LOL.

KJ

WOW, I think hell froze over.

Its just so hard to know what you have, especially if you are breeding normal animals het for anery, hypo and lav. It would take you a few years to even test breed suspected triple homo animals, thats a lot of time and money, to be proven wrong. If your right, then great, but is it worth it? Its like the striped bloods, if you breed double hets, how do you prove that an offspring is homo for both, it would take another 2 years to do so. So if you want a hypo anery lav, I would recommend you start with a pair of ghosts that are het lav. That would be the best bet. Like if I wanted striped bloods, I would breed bloods het stripe to each other (thanks for the knowledge kj) that way any stripe is guaranteed to be a blood as well.
 
mike17l said:
WOW, I think hell froze over.

Yeah, I was hoping you'd not read that earlier post. :)


mike17l said:
I would breed bloods het stripe to each other (thanks for the knowledge kj) that way any stripe is guaranteed to be a blood as well.

I was thinking the same thing. The parents better at LEASt be aners het lavender, and the check the sheds on babies to prove hypo or not. Lots of things, like striped bloods or coral snows or aner lavs or....., are made MUCH easier by picking the right founding stock....or harder - MUCH harder in some cases - by picking the wrong stock.

Like the bloods Mikey mentions....."striped bloods" from parents that AREN'T bloods should be suspect - same for aner lavs!
KJ
 
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