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Spazzing about Cage Size?

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lovesLester

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Okay, I read somewhere on this site that cage size shouldn't matter, in terms of being too large. My Okeetee just hit about 20 inches, and I get the feeling that he is getting unhappy with the Rubbermaid I have him in. Its not too small, he just loves to climb and move, and I don't think he's getting the exercise he wants.

SO, I love playing with wood and decided to make my own cage. I don't want to keep bumping up cage sizes on him, just figured it would be better to put him in the big one where he'll stay. The cage I'm making is 34 x 12 wide x 20 high. I've had people recently spazzing though, and telling me that he won't like it, that I'm going to kill him, he's too small, he wont find his water, etc.

So now I'm seeking your opinions. THe cage is a nice one, with a small UTH and a basking lamp, a couple of blue decor lights, a computer fan, it has a vine running through it and moss on the back wall. It has aspen bedding. It has a 'tree' in one side because he loves to climb. It also has a humidity cave, a pond, a 'shelf' at the top of the vine with a small stone hide, and then a log on the warm side and moss pit on the cool side.

I'm letting it air out for the next two weeks before I put him into it because I want to make sure that all fumes are gone and I'm monitoring the humidity/temp with the current heating contraptions.

I'm thinking that he will be fine, and love it, since he gets to climb more. But I don't want to make him freak, stop drinking, etc.

Do you think its too big too soon? :shrugs:
 
I don't think it will be too big but you did list a lot of things that you don't need in it.

You will need a big water dish, UTH, heat lamp if u chose, a few hides, and aspen. The decor lights, humidity cave, fan, and the moss pit are not necessary. Maybe some of those aren't even good.
 
What you learnt about cage size is wrong. but in your case its not that big of a deal.

he should be fine. As long as you have enough hides, and decorations in there to make him feel safe (not "out in the middle of no where").

and if your concerned about the waterdish issue, then just put 3 waterdishes in. :)
 
Whoever told you that a too big of a cage will kill your little corn is definately incorrect. They live in the big open wild, don't they? As long as he has enough hides, he'll be fine. He definately should enjoy his "mansion"!! :grin01:

Regards,
Lisa
 
ahh. You beat me to it. but...

Dave123 said:
The decor lights, humidity cave, fan, and the moss pit are not necessary. Maybe some of those aren't even good.
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why not? which one of those isnt good? maybe other then the fan. I dont really know why you have a fan :shrugs:
 
Thanks guys. I figured the cage size wouldn't be a problem, but I wanted to check before I hurt him.

I know I don't need most of that stuff in his cage, I just enjoy spoiling him, and the cage is going to be the center piece of my apartment, so I want it to look nice. The cage isn't as crowded as I made it sound in the first post. I think he'll like it, not feel lost. And I didn't mention the main things like water dish and UTH because I firgured it was the obvious things, sort of redudent to mention, :cheers:

Anywhoo, the fan on the top is only hooked to 4V power source, just enough to make it turn a little, to push the heat from the top to the bottom. Right now he's in the basement, and it stays a consistant 63-64 degree's down there, so I'm trying to keep the cage warm. Once I move it up to a main floor where its warmer, I'll shut the fan off.

Thanks for the replies guys, now I can stop worrying about it. :wavey:
 
wild corns and water

So the person who said that your corn will not find its water is crazy. Are there no longer wild corns because they probably cover a larger area than the cage you are building just to find water. If the water is in the cage and is accessible the snake will find it. Wish I was a little more handy with building things. I am about to get my 9th corn and only two are in tubs, the rest are in aquariums. Need to build or buy a rack soon. LOL
 
mullinsn2000 said:
So the person who said that your corn will not find its water is crazy. Are there no longer wild corns because they probably cover a larger area than the cage you are building just to find water. If the water is in the cage and is accessible the snake will find it. Wish I was a little more handy with building things. I am about to get my 9th corn and only two are in tubs, the rest are in aquariums. Need to build or buy a rack soon. LOL
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Hah, if you don't mind me offing a piece of advice about building one, measure twice, cut once. I can't say how much wood I screwed up because I didn't get the measurements right.

Also, careful about working in a crowded workspace, less you turn around into something and end up with a shiner like mine. :bang: :grin01:
 
Silt said:
Whoever told you that a too big of a cage will kill your little corn is definately incorrect. They live in the big open wild, don't they? As long as he has enough hides, he'll be fine. He definately should enjoy his "mansion"!! :grin01:

Regards,
Lisa
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I have had baby corns and other snakes who would of died due to an enclosure being too large (and by large I mean shoebox sized). Yes they live in the big open wild, but they're spending as much time as they can in the smallest area's they can squeeze into. With each snake being different sometimes its really hard to replicate what they need to feel safe, especially in a large enclosure. Some snakes will find the move to a large enclosure difficult, others wont have a problem.
 
Derek54 said:
why not? which one of those isnt good? maybe other then the fan. I dont really know why you have a fan :shrugs:
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Well I was really saying you don't need those.

Im not sure what the moss pit is and kinda confused about the fan, but ohh well.

Take picks if you can when everything is ready. :)
 
Dave123 said:
Well I was really saying you don't need those.

Im not sure what the moss pit is and kinda confused about the fan, but ohh well.

Take picks if you can when everything is ready. :)
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The moss pit is just a bunch of moss in the corner, on a sort of hill. Its not soggy or wet or anything. Its mostly a visual thing, but I have some moss in Lesters cage now, and he lays on it a lot, and burrows under it, so I'm assuming that he enjoys it, maybe since its smooth, or since it gets to be a comfortable cool temp.

The fan isn't run constantly, its just to help push the heat from his lamp downwards, just to help keep the temp up since the ambient air outside the cage is so cold. The fan is inside - it isn't pulling the dry cool air in from outside. Don't know if that makes sense, but it keeps the temps better than without. I know, I'm crazy :crazy02:

My digital camera just met an untimely fate, but I'm planning on a getting a camera phone soon, so I'll see what that can do.
 
Droptines said:
Your viv size isn't even that big.Heck,my snake is in a 30 gal.(36"x12"x18")
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That was another thing I was looking at. My snakes almost twice as long as the width, and the same height as the cage.
 
lovesLester said:
The moss pit is just a bunch of moss in the corner, on a sort of hill. Its not soggy or wet or anything. Its mostly a visual thing, but I have some moss in Lesters cage now, and he lays on it a lot, and burrows under it, so I'm assuming that he enjoys it, maybe since its smooth, or since it gets to be a comfortable cool temp.

The fan isn't run constantly, its just to help push the heat from his lamp downwards, just to help keep the temp up since the ambient air outside the cage is so cold. The fan is inside - it isn't pulling the dry cool air in from outside. Don't know if that makes sense, but it keeps the temps better than without. I know, I'm crazy :crazy02:

My digital camera just met an untimely fate, but I'm planning on a getting a camera phone soon, so I'll see what that can do.
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I'd be very concern about that fan. Little corns seem to be able to find ways to climb when there is nothing for them to climb. I'd hate to see your little one get caught in the fan. Unless, its covered some how. You didn't mention that.
 
Weebonilass said:
I'd be very concern about that fan. Little corns seem to be able to find ways to climb when there is nothing for them to climb. I'd hate to see your little one get caught in the fan. Unless, its covered some how. You didn't mention that.
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It came with a steel grid over it, and I put a criss-cross plastic cover over it with tiny holes, so he can't get in.

I was extra careful with this, all I could think of was chopped snake. :puke01:
 
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