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Vivarium Size

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Abemas

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Sorry if this question is asked a lot but....what size enclosure is needed for a full grown corn snake? I did a search of the forums but the results weren't specific enough and there were lots of varying opinions. I'd like to purchase a viv large enough to hold the snake for its entire life (sectioning it off when the snake is smaller and expanding the area as needed.) I saw a lot of people were happy with 20 gallon long tanks...but it doesn't seem like that would be long enough for a 4 foot snake. Any opinions?
 
Hey

A corn up to the size of 6ft would be happy in a 3-4ft vivarium.
You ont need to section in off when your corn is small. It wll be happy in a large viv as well as a smaller one.

Thanks

Alex
 
with hatchlings u shud as with corns theres the agoraphobia issue and if you have a sliding door 3ft viv it's asking for trouble as they can squish their heads thru anything n where the head can go so can the body, blocking it up doesn't work that well either - you wouldn't believe how strong these things are when they're determined and if they escape once they'll prob do it again and in around 1/10 of the time.

Rach
 
I'd like to get a hatchling or atleast something fairly young...although I've not been actively looking for a breeder and what not yet. Still haven't made a 100% decsion on getting a corn (debating between a corn and a ball python), but I want to have everything setup before I start hunting for the snake itself. Anybody here keep ball pythons and know how they compare to corns?

Thanks!
 
Yeah, twenty gallon long should last a corn pretty much it's whole life. If the snake is about 5' in a twenty gallon it would probably be best for it to be held every so often so it can move around. You can always go bigger than 20- I have an adult in a 40 gallon tank.

I know someone with a bp, it's very lazy- never moves, sheds in its hide box, craps in its hide box, and dosent like f/t mice very much.
 
I heard from a friend that corns are not as fun to handle in the aspect that they don't like to just sit in your hand and don't really coil around you like a python does....is there any truth to this? (My source is questionable)
 
Corns do tend to be more active than BP's, but I think that makes them more fun. I'd much rather have one slithering through my hands than hiding in a ball doing nothing. Some of my corns (the older ones) will sit with me and also coil around my arm.
 
my 2cents here are corns can evil lil' things with deciding not to feed round this itme of year (I've just discovered) BUT these are apparently a DREAM with eating compared to balls becuz once they go no it means no. I'm still getting one though lol but get a corn it's a GREAT starter snake and you have so many to choose from:D

Rachel
 
Hey

I keep corns and a ball python.

Corns move around more in ur hands
They are a bit easyer to look after
They normaly eat when they are ment too

Ball Pythons move around less in your had, but are sweet because they coil up in ur hand (which i like).
My Bp comes out of its hides more then my corns do
As long as ur bp i captivley bred, it wont normaly go on hunger strikes.

But bp need some humidity in their viv. Much more than a corn. What I do is pu a second water bowl over their heatmat. and mabey a 3rd one when they go into shed

I think a corn snake would be a better snake to start off with and then your second snake could be a bp.:D

Good luck wih your decition

Thanks
Alex
 
I have also heard they are very hard to breed and produce very small clutches- 4 or 5 eggs. Oh yeah, want a ball python morph? That can be thousands of dollars!
 
With sticking with the original topic, I keep my corn in a 33Gal. tank.
He's a year old and about 40" long.

cheers
 
rachel132002 said:
with hatchlings u shud as with corns theres the agoraphobia issue
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It's looking like I might pickup a 2 month old Okeetee tomorrow (GRIN). Since he/she will need a viv of his own I thought I might buy a full sized one so that I'm not stuck with two smaller ones. Ichabod (3 months old) is currently in a 15 gallon viv and doesn't seem to suffer from agoraphobia. Is it a bad practice to put a young Corn in a larger enclosure? I don't want to sound cheap but I also don't like wasting money.

Cheers,
Jason
 
I think it's probably okay if you have plenty of hides, their fear of space is more their fear of predators I THINK so with plenty of hides they're probably okay, I'm just using smaller ones becuasewhen I have my full size snakes in full vivs I'll have these smaller ones with equipment spare.

Rachel
 
Yes you are correct Rachel. The term agoraphobia is often misused and assumed to mean someone or something is afraid of open space. In reality, agoraphobia, as it applies to the human condition, is usually associated with panic disorder...people who suffer from panic attacks are afraid to leave home (or an area that they know) because they might have a panic attack outside their "saftey zone," and be embarrassed because of it. True agoraphobia all by itself is very very very rare and usually involves many other mental issues. Thus this term doesn't really apply to small snakes in large vivs...the stress that they seem to suffer from being in a large tank is most definitly a vulnerablity/saftey issue rather than "agoraphobia." Therefore, providing them with lots of places to hide should take care of this problem, I would assume (speaking only logically of course.) If this were not true then every snake born in the wild would certainly go insane seeing how the outdoors is much much bigger than any large tank somebody could build or buy. Sorry to go scientific on everyone...just wanted to clear up the definition problem since I see many people on this board use it incorrectly.

Thanks.
 
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