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Can snakes be fed a vegan diet?

I'm thinking that the Disney channel and cutely laundered made-for-tv-movies have spawned a generation of kids who are unaware of the realities of life. I do not fault them one bit, if they have not real gotten info or experience from family or school and if they think that life is 100% warm fuzzies, then they will think like the OP.

The OP might be a troll, but might be a product of Disney. The issue presented by her post is an opportunity to talk about education and living in society, anyway.
Our great-grandmothers went out into the yard, killed and plucked a chicken and cooked it for dinner and the kids saw all that being done.
Today's kids go to the drive-through with their parents and get a bucket to KFC. We tend to think that more modern is better, but in this example, the great g'mom and her family know more about life than the KFC crowd.

Much of today's life is glitzed and deodorized and packaged. If the OP is a troll, I'm all for ignoring her. But who knows, if she is in fact the product of today's society, a gentle reality check would be good for her snake, and for her as well.

The problem with a world run by spin doctors is that it is a disservice to those who have NEVER had their feet on the ground through no fault of their own, and if we can help anchor one inexperienced person at a time, it would be a service to snake and owner both.
 
What a fruitloop. You are a troll- not even a diehard animal rights activist would feed their animals roadkill. I won't be giving you anymore attention and hope others on this forum would do the same.
 
[starla] said:
Sure, I understand.

I just wonder what kind of life the frozen mice have had before being purchased. That's where the vegan idea originated. My snake was adopted from a previous owner. I wonder if for the greater good it would be more humane to painlessly kill my snake rather than buy frozen mice from the petstores in my area. Not because of the cost but because I don't like supporting petstores that sell animals.
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Hmmmm...so lets see if I can get this straight. You adopted a snake from some one else and didn't you know what they ate? Or were you caught up in the moment and didn't think to find out? Better yet..did you not do any research about snake care prior to acquiring the animal? Because if you were not prepared to properly care for your snake you should have passed on getting it. I mean come on. You're supposedly 21 yrs old and in all your life you never knew the diet of a typical snake? Never watch TV? How would you propose making a snake consume some asparagus or some tomato? That's just ridiculously absurd. The most humane thing to do for your snake would be let some one else be it's owner.
 
Chocolate mice...... As long as it's vegan chocolate.....
Unless you have a big snake....
I don't think they do chocolate rats......
 
My first thought was, sure, feeding vegans to snakes is perfectly fine.

Then I realized that most vegans are simply too large to be eaten by most snakes.

That lead me directly to the point where you are either a troll or woefully unedumacated in the needs of our scaley friends.

Find a small time rodent breeder. Most of them produce quality animals, especially if they are themselves keepers of reptiles.

Or find it a new home.

Or try a new forum where you may have more luck with your bait.
 
Sure why not. People do it after evolving as omnivorous. Just make sure and coat the tofu with calcium powder and drop the appropriate minerals and vitamins they need in the viv. Right? :grin01:

just kidding folks
 
wilomn said:
My first thought was, sure, feeding vegans to snakes is perfectly fine.

Then I realized that most vegans are simply too large to be eaten by most snakes.

That lead me directly to the point where you are either a troll or woefully unedumacated in the needs of our scaley friends.

Find a small time rodent breeder. Most of them produce quality animals, especially if they are themselves keepers of reptiles.

Or find it a new home.

Or try a new forum where you may have more luck with your bait.
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Hahahahaha.. Thats great.. Maybe if she/he is 80ish pounds a full grown burm/retic/conda might be able to get it down. :)
 
Starla, if you're seriously a vegan AND you want to own carnivores, then the answer I can see for you is to raise your own food for your dog & your snake. That way you can be sure they were ethically raised & cared for & did not suffer. For a snake, this is pretty easy. Mice are easy to care for, breed well in captivity, and you can be sure that they have a good quality of life. At feeding time, you can break their necks or use CO2 to kill them. There is an explanation of the latter method somewhere here on this site, use the search function & "euthanasia".
 
Lennycorn said:
Sorry but this just dosen't work for me.


"""""My dog eats a raw meat diet from roadkill and hunting."""""
OK

"""""If my pets must be eat I aim to get it from a good source""""​

I'm guess you think a road kill is a good source then.
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Dave, I take umbrage at your being so objectionable to roadkill as a food source. Brutus helps me find it. I collect it at low traffic times of the day (or night), and I store it properly refrigerated until I prepare it for either of us with great care.
 
vetusvates said:
Dave, I take umbrage at your being so objectionable to roadkill as a food source. Brutus helps me find it. I collect it at low traffic times of the day (or night), and I store it properly refrigerated until I prepare it for either of us with great care.
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LMAO..... opossum and buzzard ... Southern food at its finest:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
 
Actually, I know people who own top notch dogs (protection work and search and rescue) who feed roadkill, danielle. But by roadkill, I mean they pick up whole deer carcasses in winter, when they stay frozen, and then deep freeze them to kill any parasites - not scraping raccoons up off the highway.
 
wilomn said:
My first thought was, sure, feeding vegans to snakes is perfectly fine.

Then I realized that most vegans are simply too large to be eaten by most snakes.
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Do you have any idea how painful it is to snort ginger ale out of your nose?? LMAO!

Seriously though, I don't think Starla is a troll. I think she just got stuck on this train of thought and wanted to see what others thought of it. Obviously it's not a good idea, and maybe a hamster or other seed eating creature might be more to your liking, Starla. I have a friend who adores snakes but cannot fathom the idea of feeding it, so he doesn't have them. There's nothing wrong with admitting you chose the wrong pet for your lifestyle, but you should seriously consider rehoming the animal to someone who can care for it properly. Killing the snake to benefit the mice he might have eaten is pretty extreme, don't you think?
 
Dogs are not obligate carnivores. It is possible for them to survive and maybe even do well on a vegetarian diet. Cats, as Shiari mentioned, ARE obligate carnivores and will DIE without meat in their diet. So I call bull on you knowing healthy vegan cats. Either that or the cats are doing a LOT of hunting in their off time.

Do the snake a favor and give it to someone who cares about it.
 
Chocolate mice...... As long as it's vegan chocolate.....
Unless you have a big snake....
I don't think they do chocolate rats......
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They do however make chocolate bunnies, and they come in different sizes to match the size of your snake!
 
[starla] said:
I do know of cats raised vegan that are perfectly healthy.
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Kitty will be finding her own meals that supply the needed vitamins in this case... bet the houses of those folks don't have a mouse problem.

[starla] said:
I just wonder what kind of life the frozen mice have had before being purchased.
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About the same as any other livestock raised for food - and it depends on who's doing the raising. I raise rats, and I am comfortable with how they are treated, how they live, what they eat, and how they die.

My snake was adopted from a previous owner. I wonder if for the greater good it would be more humane to painlessly kill my snake
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Aside from the fact that you won't be able to painlessly kill your snake yourself.... do you think the SNAKE will think it's more humane? Was it fair to "adopt" the snake if you're not comfortable with what it eats? If you aren't, surely it makes more sense to avoid having ANY blood on your hands and adopt that snake out to someone else instead.

Veganism doesn't mean animals don't die in order for you to eat, anyway - how many rodent and bird nests are destroyed when they clear-cut and plough a field, or when they harvest the food? In that respect, at least the rodents your snake eats will not be wasted deaths.
 
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