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Can snakes be fed a vegan diet?

This thread was really interesting to read. This forum isn't exactly like the others I frequent, it's very... rough. lol

You guys assume that most people with what you would consider "dumb" questions is a troll. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. But if it isn't, what good is calling them a troll and poking fun at them going to do? Shouldn't you at LEAST give them the benefit of the doubt?

I love this forum, it's really interesting. There are some threads that would get closed in a heartbeat on other forums up here, and it's made for some great debates/conversations. I just think maybe we could be a little nicer to the newcomers, you know? XD
 
VickyChaiTea said:
This thread was really interesting to read. This forum isn't exactly like the others I frequent, it's very... rough. lol

You guys assume that most people with what you would consider "dumb" questions is a troll. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. But if it isn't, what good is calling them a troll and poking fun at them going to do? Shouldn't you at LEAST give them the benefit of the doubt?

I love this forum, it's really interesting. There are some threads that would get closed in a heartbeat on other forums up here, and it's made for some great debates/conversations. I just think maybe we could be a little nicer to the newcomers, you know? XD
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It's not a "dumb" question that makes a troll. There are many questions that keepers who've had snakes for decades would consider dumb, that's lack of information rather than trolling. What makes this poster a troll rather than an innocent newcomer is deliberately coming on a snake forum with an obviously silly question, and following it up with WELP GUESS I BETTER KILL MY SNAKE LOL. I know there are a lot of older people here who aren't as ingrained in internet culture as my gen, but trust me, speaking as part of the generation that INVENTED the internet troll, this is classic troll behavior. If I wanted to stir the s*** at a reptile forum this is the exact behavior I would employ.
 
I don't know, you still seemed to come off real harsh. And if you really thought this was a troll the best thing would have been to ask a mod to delete the thread/ban the member, not post on said thread.
 
VickyChaiTea said:
I don't know, you still seemed to come off real harsh. And if you really thought this was a troll the best thing would have been to ask a mod to delete the thread/ban the member, not post on said thread.
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As another member said, while this person was screwing with us, it's important to leave things like this up in case a real uninformed newbie stumbles upon it.
 
Pepper said:
It's not a "dumb" question that makes a troll. There are many questions that keepers who've had snakes for decades would consider dumb, that's lack of information rather than trolling. What makes this poster a troll rather than an innocent newcomer is deliberately coming on a snake forum with an obviously silly question, and following it up with WELP GUESS I BETTER KILL MY SNAKE LOL. I know there are a lot of older people here who aren't as ingrained in internet culture as my gen, but trust me, speaking as part of the generation that INVENTED the internet troll, this is classic troll behavior. If I wanted to stir the s*** at a reptile forum this is the exact behavior I would employ.
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Dang. I missed the meeting where you were appointed head dimglow.

You were rude.

You were mean.

You were uninformed.

Basically you were a jerk.

Just because YOU would do something stupid, which I have ZERO doubt you are not only familiar with but quite good at, does not mean anyone else would.

I bet if you started a poll asking if anyone would act like you, the resounding answer would be NO.

Suck it up and move on boyo, you were wrong. Not just wrong, but mean too.

I suppose you feel good about beating up newbs on the internet too, eh?

Do you kick puppies and stomp on kitty tails when you're not being an internet jerk?
 
wilomn said:
Dang. I missed the meeting where you were appointed head dimglow.

You were rude.

You were mean.

You were uninformed.

Basically you were a jerk.

Just because YOU would do something stupid, which I have ZERO doubt you are not only familiar with but quite good at, does not mean anyone else would.

I bet if you started a poll asking if anyone would act like you, the resounding answer would be NO.

Suck it up and move on boyo, you were wrong. Not just wrong, but mean too.

I suppose you feel good about beating up newbs on the internet too, eh?
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There really is no need for you to be so rude.
 
If you call someone else rude and then are rude...well you know that saying too. Pepper is Pepper and yes harsh, but she still has the right to decide whether she thinks a post is trollish or an honest quesion right? People overall play hard here and take it as well as they dish it out. The question was trollish in nature for sure, but I do believe was an honest question. On that note it would be nice if Pepper used more tact in her wording, but your's was equal and all too often this forum is a trolls playground anyway:)
 
I have been really trying to limit my posting, but I couldn't help it this time.


[starla] said:
My dog however is healthy on the raw meat. The roadkill is picked up and frozen asap, it is not sitting around for days festering first .
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First, I am just really curious, do you pick out the bits of gravel and other forms of debris or is that just part of the diet? Don't get me wrong, I have fed deer that I struck with a vehicle or occasional bullet or arrow, but they were semi processed prior to use.

Secondly, what happens when the supply begins to run low, do you ride around looking for for dead animals and if there is none to be soon, you make an "exception" to run the little racoon down as it tries to cross the road?

[starla] said:
I've decided I want to look into the carbon dioxide method for killing and raising my own feeders. That is the closest way I can ensure the mice are happy.
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Did you seriously state "ensure the mice are HAPPY? I am not "The Rodent Whisperer but I am near certain that the mice are not happy about dying no matter how glorious or inglorious the cause.

Just some observations.

dc
 
Camby said:
Secondly, what happens when the supply begins to run low, do you ride around looking for for dead animals and if there is none to be soon, you make an "exception" to run the little racoon down as it tries to cross the road?
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LMAO... this gave me quite the image....
 
For that matter.... An animal that is ill/diseased is going to be far more likely to get hit by a car. Not something I'd want to feed to my dog.
 
Shiari said:
For that matter.... An animal that is ill/diseased is going to be far more likely to get hit by a car. Not something I'd want to feed to my dog.
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Devil's advocate here, but don't most predators prey on the weak and old before going for animals in their prime?

There are some parts of this country where you see fresh roadkill almost everyday.

Maybe the OP lives in such an area?
 
I'm naming all my mice Vegan as of today. That way I can prove all of you wrong that a snake can survive on a Vegan diet. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to load up the pinky pump with some more cauliflower.
 
It depends. Trans larva migrans is no fun to anyone, for example. And of course, even if the dog is vaccinated, I'd be leery of it being able to eat anything that could be carrying rabies.
 
Shiari said:
It depends. Trans larva migrans is no fun to anyone, for example. And of course, even if the dog is vaccinated, I'd be leery of it being able to eat anything that could be carrying rabies.
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I'm pretty sure you don't get rabies by eating roadkill.

Isn't Zombification what you get by eating the dead? Or is that when the dead eat you? Both?
 
wilomn said:
I'm pretty sure you don't get rabies by eating roadkill.

Isn't Zombification what you get by eating the dead? Or is that when the dead eat you? Both?
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I'm pretty sure zombies don't exist. Ironically, you apparently can get rabies from a dead animal, if you eat it's brain matter. How many dogs pick around the brain? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2656546/

EDIT: Since I know you're going to come back with this: http://neurophilosophy.wordpress.com/2006/05/24/voodoo-zombies-the-puffer-fish/ allow me to clarify that I mean Romero-esque zombies. The fictional, movie ones.
 
Pepper said:
I'm pretty sure zombies don't exist. Ironically, you apparently can get rabies from a dead animal, if you eat it's brain matter. How many dogs pick around the brain? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2656546/

EDIT: Since I know you're going to come back with this: http://neurophilosophy.wordpress.com/2006/05/24/voodoo-zombies-the-puffer-fish/ allow me to clarify that I mean Romero-esque zombies. The fictional, movie ones.
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Indeed. Exactly what I would have done. Precisely. Nothing else could possibly have entered that small hiding place in which resides what passes for my noodle OTHER than what you have taken, kindly too might I add, into consideration.

Nope. Nothing else. Not a darn tootin' thing.

Thank you. From the deepest darkest depths of my peanutbutter filled heart, I extend my gratitude to you for sparing me the need to make myself, yet again, a fool, a pawn, a cast away crackerjack toy, subject to your mastery of the written word.

Of course what you know about what I would do would just about half way fill a small thimble, but hey, for you, that's a lot.
 
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