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Can snakes be fed a vegan diet?

[starla] said:
My dog is not being fed eat raccoons or porcupines. One deer hit is plenty of food. My dog weighs 30 pounds, he eats 1 pound of meat a day.
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Unless your 1 pound of meat a day includes the heart, liver, intestines, brains, et. al. your healthy alternative diet isn't any more nutritious than vinster feeding his snake boiled white chicken meat.

Good luck with that.
D80
 
Drizzt80 said:
Unless your 1 pound of meat a day includes the heart, liver, intestines, brains, et. al. your healthy alternative diet isn't any more nutritious than vinster feeding his snake boiled white chicken meat.

Good luck with that.
D80
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I fed a raw diet for years, and I did include everything. If I'd had access to more roadkill I'd have gone for it. As it was, I fed a lot of frozen rabbits from sources that bred them for snakes, and ones that my friend's cats would kill and bring into his house. The only reason I don't still feed raw is lack of freezer space.
 
[starla] said:
So would a person with serve autism be less valuable than a dog, if that dog is more intelligent? Is your species more valuable than another? Like.. white people are more important than black people, or woman less valuable than men? What is the difference? Speciesism is no different than racism when you think about it.
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Actually, they're quite different, "when you think about it".

I had a whole thing about race being socially constructed, etc etc etc... but you know what... maybe I'll just leave it at... "when you think about it." :idea:
 
Drizzt80 said:
Good! I have no problem with that, and it's a 100 times different than someone just cutting out the "meat" portions to feed.

D80
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Indeed...when I was a vet tech I got to see a few people kill their animals that way right toward the end of the recall scare. Why people thought tossing their dog a chicken breast twice a day was a complete diet is beyond me.
 
[starla] said:
Not that one part is disgusting, but the parts that are not 'good enough for human consumption' are not taken care of as well in a processing facility. .
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Cite your authority for this assertion. Not 'Well, I'd think', or 'it's only logical', you made a statement, back it up.
 
Drizzt80 said:
Good! I have no problem with that, and it's a 100 times different than someone just cutting out the "meat" portions to feed.

D80
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Each pound is comprised of different parts of the carcass. Occasionally he gets a raw egg too. My snake is not on a vegan diet - I was only inquiring. So RELAX. But anyways, I've had enough of this particular forum. Too many assumptions and rude comments from many users. I can back up statements I've made with PETA studies. They are over the top in some of their suggestions yes, but they cannot publish false information.
 
[starla] said:
Each pound is comprised of different parts of the carcass. Occasionally he gets a raw egg too. My snake is not on a vegan diet - I was only inquiring. So RELAX. But anyways, I've had enough of this particular forum. Too many assumptions and rude comments from many users. I can back up statements I've made with PETA studies. They are over the top in some of their suggestions yes, but they cannot publish false information.
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WOW. :laugh01: I cannot even begin to tear this apart. I am to busy rolling on the floor laughing my butt off. :laugh01:
 
[starla] said:
I can back up statements I've made with PETA studies. They are over the top in some of their suggestions yes, but they cannot publish false information.
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I'm not going to bother to take anything apart. It scars me to death that people really believe this stuff. Just because it is in print does not make it true. PETA can publish anything they want, there are no internet police.

Watch this:

The sky is falling. Black is White. Grass is blue. I love Obama.

Now you can go on any forum you would like and quote me as a reference.
 
One of the worst PETA films I've seen shows live animals, a sort of raccoon dog farmed in eastern Europe being skinned alive by the 'callous workers'. Of course what isn't revealed is that PETA set up and paid for the live skinning session. Just a few seconds thought makes it obvious that skinning the animals live is difficult and takes longer because they are wriggling and thrashing about, not at all an efficient way to precede on a commercial fur farm. But it looks horrific and probably outraged plenty of people into donating to PETA
 
[starla] said:
I can back up statements I've made with PETA studies. They are over the top in some of their suggestions yes, but they cannot publish false information.
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:laugh01: :roflmao: :crazy02: :rofl:

Hold on a second, I have to wipe my eyes!

Wayne
 
[starla] said:
I can back up statements I've made with PETA studies. They are over the top in some of their suggestions yes, but they cannot publish false information.
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:rofl:

I had my suspicions when you started this thread, but now I know...


On another note, but quite possibly the same... PETA can, will, and absolutely does publish false information. They are, in my opinion, taking advantage of people like you, by saying that their information is backed up by scientists. While not all of the information they use may be false, a good deal of it is for the birds.
 
I've been reading out of curiosity... :)

You're leaving THIS forum because of assumptions and rude comments? Granted I haven't been here very long, but this forum is far more polite than most I've been to. Even the "heated" topics such as housing two snakes together or feeding live vs f/t -- even those seem much more civilized than most other discussions you'll find on the internet.

Of course, claiming PETA as your backup may explain why you've encountered any hostility, really...
 
Lucille said:
Cite your authority for this assertion. Not 'Well, I'd think', or 'it's only logical', you made a statement, back it up.
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Well, well, well, no backup for your assertions and using PETA as a general authority.....

I don't understand why you are put out when no one believes what you are saying.

If you want to stalk off and leave the playground go ahead, we'd be glad to see you back when you collect a few facts.
 
[starla] said:
Sure, I understand.

I just wonder what kind of life the frozen mice have had before being purchased. That's where the vegan idea originated. My snake was adopted from a previous owner. I wonder if for the greater good it would be more humane to painlessly kill my snake rather than buy frozen mice from the petstores in my area. Not because of the cost but because I don't like supporting petstores that sell animals.
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If you have such qualms about feeding off prekilled mice just remember, the mice would have died whether you bought them or not. Feeding them to your snake only gives their death a purpose and meaning. I absolutely oppose the idea of killing your snake just to save a few (already dead) mice. If you have a moral dilemma any member of this forum will gladly take your snake from you, I will even pay for the shipping if you want me to take it.
 
[starla] said:
I can back up statements I've made with PETA studies. They are over the top in some of their suggestions yes, but they cannot publish false information.
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PETA publishes whatever Bull$hit they want, these are the people who are campaigning for fish to be renamed SEA KITTENS. Do you really support such nutcases? Besides which they KILL far more animals than they save. Since 1998, PETA has opted to “put down” 23,640 adoptable dogs, cats, puppies, and kittens instead of finding homes for them. THEIR RECORDS SHOW THIS! Please do some research on organizations before supporting them.
 
Apparently the original poster has left the forum, probably off to go dump blood on fur coats or something. Where the hell do they get the blood in the first place anyway?
 
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