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Tub Enclosure Questions + Set Up

cinnabunbun

cinnabunbun

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My stuff finally comes in this morning, then I can start construction!

What I got so far.
- 15 qt Sterilite Latch Tub + binder clips
- Zoomed ReptiTherm UTH Mini
- HydroFarm Thermostat http://amzn.com/B000NZZG3S
- Accurite http://amzn.com/B0013BKDO8
- Borrowed Soldering Gun
- Also bought luggage straps, just in case.

I did alot of research and tutorials on how to construct a Snake tub and I was thinking about keeping my future corn in a tub until it is an adult and invest in a decent glass enclosure (been eyeing that Zilla's Critter Cages.)

I bought a 15 qt tub because I'm planning to get a juvenile corn to start with, how long can I keep it there until I need to move up to 20 gal or 36-41qt tub? So I can save up and plan ahead.

Next question. I saw that some people who has the stick on UTHs, they place it on a melamine panel and then put the tub over it to receive heat. It's to make it easier to move the enclosure out for cleaning or rearranging. Is that okay for tub set up? Regarding the size of the UT, I'm afraid it might not be able to provide enough heat. I do have a space heater in my room.

Lastly, how deep should be bedding be? Everyone said corns like to burrow so I would like to know how much is good for them to dig around.

Sorry for the really really long and wordy post. I'd like to make sure I don't mess up or so!
 
I intend to keep my juvies in 15qt until they're around 150g or so, possibly longer. I put a sub-100g corn in a 36qt and it just looks hilariously big. She rarely uses the space, and even when she cruises around, I only see evidence of movement along the back most of the time.

As for the UTH, I would just stick it to foil. Depth of bedding depends on what you use. I only provide a single hide in my tubs so I keep the sani-chip deep enough for burrowing depending on the size of the snake. Just make it about as deep as their widest point.
 
Alrighty, I'll apply foil to the UTH, and I'll run by Home Depot for some foil tape. Gotta find another use for this wooden panel now hah. So I would also need to pick up a decent scale for the corn too.

I was planning to use Aspen as it's more suitable, because I think paper towels look kind of funny, though it has it's uses. Is it okay to put a layer of paper towels and then an inch of aspen over it?

I really wish I had an idea how big juvis are so I can prepare hides for them. I seen baby corns before when I was at LLL Reptiles here in my city, and they look, REALLY tiny. Do you think juvis can fit in Toilet rolls and single yogurt cups?

(Btw, I seen your corns, Dragonling and they're all really pretty!)
 
Here is my setup at the moment. I'm sorry for the double posting.

Cool side is left (75F), warm side is right (around 79-82F) Ventilation holes are on the top left and right sides only.
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My humidity is high because it's raining over here. Is this okay? Or should I wait until it's clear over where I am for a better reading of, everything really?
 
Okay I'll try to do that. I had my thermostat probe tape on my UTH and it's not giving me enough warmth for the warm side. Is there a possible way for me to put the probe inside the tub? I'm afraid it'll get knocked all over the place even if i tried to slip it under the paper towel + aspen.
 
There's nothing wrong with the way you have it already, but you need to measure the actual temp inside the tub with a hand held infrared thermometer.

I actually have to set my heat pad to about 91 degrees. The heat pad itself is 91 degrees, but when you measure the temp inside the cage bottom it's about 85 by the time the heat comes through the glass and the carpet.

The important temp is what the actual glass inside the cage measures, not what the thermostat or UTH measures.
 
Okay I'll try to adjust that then. I'm sorry I get really nervous about asking questions and such. The humidity inside measures about 74%, Should I make more holes?
 
Hrm correct me if I'm wrong, but it's a little hard to adjust the humidity over here. It's been really humid in SoCal. I added a new row of holes on the front now. and it lowered it a little. It'll be around 34% this Saturday, so I might be able to have a better control. I'll be getting my snake on the 23rd so I still have time to adjust. Temperature is fine now, going with Karl's UTH suggestion. I have a temp gun and that's what I've been using to measure out the temp.
 
Don't worry about that humidity if then it goes down when it stops raining. On my first months with Naga it was a rainy winter and I had like 70-80% for some days. I was so worried, I ventilated the room a lot, but could not change it. Then the rain stopped, and it has since been in the 50-60%. Then I also had a small tub and humidity builds up more because the water dish was smaller and closer to the UTH.
You can safely make like 3 rows of that ventilation holes without worries, since corns only need room humidity, not like tropical species.
Another tip to help with the viv size is that when the snake measures the same as the front + 1 side of the viv it's time to go up. If you keep this in mind it will not lack space to stretch.
 
It can get dry down here, but that seems to be an easy fix. I'll plop more holes and leave it at that. Thank you for your suggestion and easing my worries a bit hah.

Is my current set up okay? I feel it looks a little dodgy, its hard to see but there's a empty roll of t-p in the back behind the fake plant. Hope it's good enough to make my corn comfy. I have been planning out it's permanent home though.
 
In general the setup looks ok. You can add more toilet paper rolls if you feel like it. Snake will appreciate lots of hiding places.
Otherwise, the water bowl will probably end up turning. Do you have one with straight sides, not diagonal? A ceramic ashtray might do the thing.
And I know I might be pointy in this (for safety), but the white hide, the one made from a cut cup, seems sharp and may actually cut the snake, be careful with that. You can also use empty cereal boxes or some other small carton box. I hope this helps you.
 
It's a ceramic creme Brulee dish hah. I can pick a heavier bottom dish. And yeah its a badly cut out yogurt cup. I got more cups I can probably cut out a much neater one. Most of the cardboard stuff I have are too big for the intended juvi. But I can try to improvise more. The water dish is buried in the aspen.
 
You can use your soldering iron to cut a smooth hole in the side of a cup by dragging it slowly in a circle. The creme brulee dish will probably be fine, it should be heavy enough and flat enough to not tip, though a higher-sided bowl will be easier to refill without spilling water into the aspen. I use round pyrex glass containers as water bowls since they are heavy, difficult to flip over, easy to disinfect, and tougher to break. 1 cup bowls should be perfect for a small hatchling, though my 12g boy has a 2 cup and can get in and out of it just fine.
 
FYI, you can also sand holes you cut in plastic to smooth them. Even a soldering iron can leave some plastic points sometimes (ask me how I know). I've found a Dremel tool makes sanding go faster, but you still need to finish with a quick hand sanding.

If you don't want to invest in sand paper, I've used emery boards (nail files) when I didn't have sand paper handy. They can be used to smooth out any rough plastic.

Also check any commercial hides you may get. They can have sharp points, too.

Your set up is looking good. Best wishes.
 
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A bit of a late reply but thank you everyone for your advice and info! One more week until I find me a corn! I can ask for some sandpaper from my mom's work/my old workplace and keep it around (We worked at a plastic fabrication company). I'll have to hit up my dollar store for more stuff than as my new friend grows! So far I added more holes, and with the weather's humidity going down, I hope it'll be good.

How much mice should I stock up for 6 months to a year for a single corn? I can hardly find any answers on that x_x;
 
cinnabunbun said:
How much mice should I stock up for 6 months to a year for a single corn? I can hardly find any answers on that x_x;
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If he's not too small (like under 9-10g) 50 medium/large pinks will probably last you until he's ready for fuzzies. At least that has been my experience. I just rearranged them by size and give the smallest medium pinks first, moving on to the larger ones later, then doubling those right before switching to fuzzies if there are enough.
 
Okay I'll pick up some feeders when I hit up the Expo. Cool side is now 78F, Warm side 84-86F, Humidity is around 40%!
 
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