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Why can't people teach kids respect?!

bekers71

What addiction?!
I like to think of my self as a kind person. I would give you my last dollar if you needed it and not hound you to give it back. We don't have much money. Matter of fact my husband is on unemployment right now and can't find a job. I have a total of 5 kids in the house, all boys. We go to a store they hold doors, say excuse me, most the time walk in a single file line as to stay out of peoples way. They answer ma'am and sir to adults. But don't think we are too hard on them. They get almost every thing they want, in time. My kids are in no way perfect and we don't expect them to be. They get in trouble just like any other kid. We do, however, expect them to respect others, them selves and other peoples property.

Now to why I started all this. I bought a house 3 yrs ago across town, 1/2 mile from me. It was before I met my husband. I was in the process of divorce had 2 children and living with my parents. Very rough time in my life. The house is old. It was filled with trash, spray painted walls and broken windows. There were no doors or plumbing. The floors needed to be jacked up and 40 yrs of wall paper scraped off the walls and ceiling. This is just a sample of things to do. But hey, it was $6,000 and contract for deed. I do all my own work and only paid 2 people, one for the floors and one for the plumbing. It's not near being finished yet. But I have worked very hard with the occasional help from my parents.

In 3 yrs I have never had any trouble over there. That all changed when the guy who rented the house next door moved out. It was then rented to another man who has two sons. These boys are very well known in town for bad behavior. They are even suspected in starting a house fire a couple months ago leaving a man homeless. They are rude and mean. They used to live down the street from where I am now with their mother. You could hear them cursing and yelling at her.
Any way- I go over to my house yesterday to find trash all beside my house, the side closest to them. Windows upstairs and downstairs all busted. These had already been replaced. Inside the house things had been messed with and broken. I am thinking "What the he**! Why would some one do this?". So I go to the man that rents the house out and tell him what I found. He acts like its not a big deal. Matter of fact he kind of laughed. Tells me to talk to the dad and asked me if I filed a police report. Before I go any further I want to say we live in a small town. By small I mean 1200 people. Every one knows every body and you last name will determine what happens to you. These kids grandpa is on the city council. Get my point? So I tell the man that there has never been any trouble over there until they moved in. Still acting like he don't care, I left. Now I am not angry. I am livid! I call the police,which is the mayors house by the way. He takes my name and calls the city cop for me. I meet with him at the house. He checks out the damage and asked me what I would like to do. He says hes pretty sure it was the boys next door because they did 3 other houses over the weekend and got caught. I told him I felt like those boys need to be taught a lesson and it was time for them to stop getting by with wrong doings. When he knows for sure they did it, they have 2 options. They will either pay for the damages or I WILL file charges against them! I don't care who they are!

Unfortunately I don't have the money to fix the windows. Now the rain, snow and stray animals are going to damage things that I have in there and stuff I have already fixed.

So after my ranting the question is this-Why don't parents care? This country relies on our children to do what is right in the future. Do parents not want their kids to be productive and respectful citizens? Its hard for kids like mine to understand why they get in trouble for not sharing the game cube and kids like those boys get by with every thing. Where do we draw the line and make kids and parents accountable for their actions?

Sorry about the venting-was just upset. :)
 
Sounds like they need a good spanking. It's really over dramatized, I'm not saying beat the kid. But I misbehaved ONCE with my mother in public, she swatted me once and I never misbehaved again.

It really frightens me as an up and coming mother, I want so badly to do right by my son and society by not raising a little hellion.

I just see so much at the toy store where I work, so many little brats and parents just letting them get away with trashing or grabbing anything they want, then throwing a hissy fit when the toy the mom chooses to get them isn't the big expensive one they want. And then instead of saying "you get nothing at all" they either buy the kid the big expensive one or say "No you're getting this one" wtf they kid doesn't want that toy and he's being a pain in the ass why buy him anything?!!?

Now you've done it and got me started too...
 
Now you've done it and got me started too...

LOL :laugh01:

I know what you mean though. I see those kids all the time too. They run around the store, hide in the clothes racks and the screaming ones really get to me. We tell the kids "Don't ask for any thing because your not getting it." Then some times, if they have helped me get the groceries we need or been really good we take em over to the aisle that has .88 toys and let them pick one as a reward. We save the good toys for other times.
 
Sorry to hear about this Becky. You are right in the fact that some people just don't care. We have raised our children the way you have. We have instilled in them respect, morals and values. There is nothing wrong with letting your children know that saying "Thank You" or "Excuse Me" because that it what is just. I would press full charges on these two and make the father accountable. Maybe that will knock his smug attitude down a few notches. It all comes down to the fact that a lot of people just don't care or they are afraid to discipline their children and make them accountable for their actions. If my children were to do something like you have just posted the last things they would have to worry about was the person they did it to or the police for that matter. They would be dealing with a 6'3" 230 lbs angry, upset, disappointed man......ME. I would be appalled if any of my children were to do something like this. I am truly sorry that someone did this to you Becky. PJ and I wish there were something we could do. Hey I got an idea, we can fly out to you guys and you can watch me stomp the living sh** out of this guy who pretends to be a father. Stuff like this just isn't right. Becky we are so sorry this happened to you. You have every right and more to feel the way you do. I will say that you are handling the situation better then I would have.
Jay
 
I am truly sorry that someone did this to you Becky. PJ and I wish there were something we could do. Hey I got an idea, we can fly out to you guys and you can watch me stomp the living sh** out of this guy who pretends to be a father.

Thanks Jay. This means a lot to mean. You guys are so sweet and its great to have friends like you. So...when should I pick you up from the airport? LOL
 
It really does upset me when honest hard working people try to work things out for the better. Like you fixing up this house, it is not a cheap endeavor just because you are doing most of the work yourself. It is an investment and these kids just set you back on your return.

It is like no one takes pride anymore in the work they do (different rant for a personal situation). I think this is because someone did spank them enough or show them that life's choices do have consequences.

I hope these kids can learn a lesson because good people like you are suffering because the system is letting them get away with it.

I am truly sorry!
 
I am also so sorry that this happened, Becky. I would definitely prosecute, even if they're minors. The "parents" need to be held accountable. My brothers and I were raised the same way you are raising your boys. Disrespect and lack of manners was not tolerated in our house. Keep teaching your boys to do the right thing, no matter how those around them are behaving.

I kind of like Jay's solution!

Kathy
 
That sucks!

I agree with Jay ,I think the dad needs his ass whooped,that way he would start making sure he keeps better watch on his kids. I hope you find out who did it and that you get the money to fix the windows and the stuff damaged. So sorry to hear that you have every right to be pissed off! Hope things go better for you!
 
I am with you, try teaching High School.

The problem does come from the parents, bad parents have bad kids plane and simple. Now these kids could use a beating, but it would probably do nothing, what they really need is a parent who would spank them 10 years ago when they were growing up. Now we can not go back in time, these kids will breed more bad kids and the process will continue for a long time, we are in effect reversing evolution.
 
I'm with Jay too! We'll both give Dad a "Talking to"..
and I'll let my son have a "discussion" w/ his sons.. LOL

If kids got whoopings when misbehaving there would be less
of these issues. Not beatings just whoopings, like we got in
"The Old Days"...

Good luck with it Becky, small town politics can be a pain in the #$$!
 
I know I'm this bleeding heart liberal person, but I do have some thigs that really get me. Disrespectful kids is one of them, I think I just recently did a rant on them.
The problem with so many kids they don't care and their parents turn a blind eye. I have seen parents watching kids destroying stuff and the parents just watch. You all know how shy and quiet I am, ya right, I've had parents ask me what the problem is when I give their kids a dirty look. Lets see your kid is pulling flowers out of a newly planted garden (like at the park or in town), the kid is smearing his spitty finger over clean windows, they just about knocked over the lady in a walker (to which the mother said the she shouldn't be on the side walk). I could write a book.
Do any of you remember writing on the walls of the bathroom at school, with your own feces, or pee a pattern on the wall? Did you just throw everything you don't want on the floor pencils, pens, papers... and just walk away at the end of the day? This list could be very long also the sad thing i this case parents and teachers just say Oh! we'll talk to them.
Bekers sorry to take over your vent but UGH, some kids. I'm so sorry for the damage done to all your work, to bad we can't all fly there, Jay can beat the poo out of the Dad and the rest of us could help you get it back in order, to prevet further damage.
 
The odds are these kids will grow up to be adults who will spend time in Jail.

Sorry to hear about this Becky, If you lived in MN, i would get some friends together and help you repair that house. Will insurance cover this? And how old are these boys? 11 -12? or older? 16-17?
 
I'm with Jay too! We'll both give Dad a "Talking to"..
and I'll let my son have a "discussion" w/ his sons.. LOL

If kids got whoopings when misbehaving there would be less
of these issues. Not beatings just whoopings, like we got in
"The Old Days"...

Good luck with it Becky, small town politics can be a pain in the #$$!

:laugh01:Did your parents have to stand on a chair to whoop you?
I had soap put in my mouth once and a smack on the butt a coouple times, I was scared of my parents, nothing could make me shudder like a look from my Mom. I wasn't perfect far from it, but I never wanted to get caught. Kids now do't care if they get caught.
 
I know this is going back pretty far, but this is for my scout members that ripped my giant moth that I had framed! again to them: this is to them for making the Idea when I brought my snow female in to and I quote, "let her out on the floor so we can see her crawl"! this is for them!
:angry01::mad::laugh01::headbang::fullauto::twoguns::madeuce::realhot::uzi:
 
im sorry to hear about what happen i have no kids and never plan on it, but i was the hellion at age 18 i was already in prison for smashing in house windows and stealing cars...when i went to rehab is when i found out why i did all that stuff and your right parents now a days are getting younger and they want to be there kids friend not there parent and still wonder why there kid gets into trouble....the answer is no disipline....its quiet sad cause if they just act like a parebt theyll actually be better friends with there kids....

you have done a great job raising your kids and if i ever decide to have some i only hope i can raise them like you have done

again sorry for your troubles and if you do press charges like you should those kids will have to pay for all damages, it just will take awhile
 
im sorry to hear about what happen i have no kids and never plan on it, but i was the hellion at age 18 i was already in prison for smashing in house windows and stealing cars...when i went to rehab is when i found out why i did all that stuff and your right parents now a days are getting younger and they want to be there kids friend not there parent and still wonder why there kid gets into trouble....the answer is no disipline....its quiet sad cause if they just act like a parebt theyll actually be better friends with there kids....

you have done a great job raising your kids and if i ever decide to have some i only hope i can raise them like you have done

again sorry for your troubles and if you do press charges like you should those kids will have to pay for all damages, it just will take awhile

Wow! Well my grandkids (one who is older then you) are out of control. My daughters say it is because I was so strict. I say to them it wasn't my job to be your friend, "it was my job to be your mother". You have by your choice or forced to take account for your actions and that's a good thing.
 
Wow! Well my grandkids (one who is older then you) are out of control. My daughters say it is because I was so strict. I say to them it wasn't my job to be your friend, "it was my job to be your mother". You have by your choice or forced to take account for your actions and that's a good thing.

Um.. so why are you getting the Blame for your Grand children's mistakes as an adult? Sorry at this time they are adults, and yes, all boys will at one point or another do some thing really stupid. We all have but as we get in our 20's its up us to realize not to do things like that again. Its time to be an adult and be responsible. Its not Your fault or your Daughter's Fault but those men.
Sorry, I am not into passing the blame on my parents, my mistakes as an adult is my own, not theirs.
 
Um.. so why are you getting the Blame for your Grand children's mistakes as an adult? Sorry at this time they are adults, and yes, all boys will at one point or another do some thing really stupid. We all have but as we get in our 20's its up us to realize not to do things like that again. Its time to be an adult and be responsible. Its not Your fault or your Daughter's Fault but those men.
Sorry, I am not into passing the blame on my parents, my mistakes as an adult is my own, not theirs.

Twenty-one is the oldest they go down to 6 years old. There is a clump of of 12, 12.5, and 13. Geez my daughter blames me for her name, the weather, you name it she blames me.
 
Geez my daughter blames me for her name, the weather, you name it she blames me.
I would tell her she is a big girl now, she should take care of her own problems and the blame for her own kids. :grin01:

I personally feel that as Adults, (mind you I mean Adults) we are not responsible for our parents mistakes, be it financial or what ever and Parents are not responsible for the Adult Children's mistakes.

But yes, as for teenagers and children, a parent (or the legal guardian) is responsible for their actions, since they are minors. My SO and I have disagreements on punishment on children, I believe being firm and not wishy washy. Rule number one to anything in life is consistency. You need to be consistent in discipline with children. So if they know if they do Blank, blank will happen to them.
 
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