Heat Pad question

[halicorn]

I just recently bought a plastic bin (Sterilite brand) with lockable sides. Nice size for my new corn that I am getting this coming week. I have everything BUT heating. Know I have a line on this heat pad for $10, link below
http://www.zoomed.com/db/products/EntryDetail.php?EntryID=113&DatabaseID=2&SearchID=1

Now has anyone used these under a plastic bin and had problems with melting or anything like that? I know it says no but I wanna know what experiences you members have had. Is it safer to use a heat lamp?

Would like input before I go and by this heat pad.

Thanks in advance

 

[halicorn]

BUMP:dancer::dancer:

 

[wade]

you want the heat pad to cover 1/4 to 1/3 of enclosure. The like you posted said that the pad was only 6" x 8". That is a little too small. It also said that it was only 8 watts which means that it is going to have a hard time maintaining 85*.

The heat and thermostat and extremely important parts of your snakes future. Don't try to save money here. Get good stuff and it will last for years.

 

[patm1313]

Honestley, just go to the local pharmacy and buy an electric heat pad for old people's backs. They work really well, BIOR, and they will last you until you get a full size tank and can get the more expensive and larger one. I doubt a heat lamp would be any safer.

 

[susang]

electric heat pad for old people's backs. They work really well, .

Your mis-information and insenstivity continue to bogle my mind, but then it is an old mind. Maybe it needs a heat pad:shrugs:
OP you can use a regular heat pad , but only temp. as they can be hard to control and not really meant to be left on 24/7.

 

[patm1313]

Insensitivity? For saying old people? That's what I've seen them used for, and I don't know how to describe one outside of that. Mis-Info: What? They work fine. They have adjustable heat (most do, at least [Not hard to control]) and actually do get hot enough. They're cheap, and won't melt the sterilite, and believe it or not, you can leave it on 24/7. It will probably shorten the life of it from 5 years to 1 or 2, but hey, you don't need it that long.

I'm far from old. If anything, my mind need a freeze pack.

 

[KJUN]

> That's what I've seen them used for,

How about "human heating pad?" They are used for all types of aches and pains. Heck, a shoulder injury when I was a freshman in high school had me using one for weeks. Women, apparently, can use the heat to help with cramps. I can't speak about that one from personal knowledge.

> They have adjustable heat (most do, at least [Not hard to control]) and actually do get hot enough.

Have you ever even bothered to TEMP one? I've used them, and I still do in a make-shift quarantine situation when necessary. Using them "always on" IS a fire hazard....knock on wood. I've had them scorch and melt, but nothing worse. That's when I stopped, but I have had them in use for a few years previously. No problems, except THEY ARE TOO HOT. I've had to use them with VERY insulating substrate. Check it. Most, even on low, are WELL above the temps you want for cornsnakes. They have to or they wouldn't be warm enough to do their job on people.

Granted, maybe they have some new ones that are much cooler. Post the name brand, model number, and temp range on each setting when contained UNDER a cage (not in the open radiating heat), or shut the heck up and stop giving advice that can kill someone's pet! It is not VERY likely with a heating pad on low under good substrate, but I've seen it happen to someone who killed 2 adult corns in sweater boxes with a heating pad on low.....while using newspaper as substrate. Basically, it just baked the snakes.

> They're cheap, and won't melt the sterilite, and believe it or not, you can leave it on 24/7. I

That doesn't mean it isn't a fire hazard just because you say you can leave it on. Again, I've had them melt the pad itself, and I suspect that might have been a possible incident if the pad would have been on something that would have burnt.

> If anything, my mind need a freeze pack

I will not say the obvious. :dunce:

 

[patm1313]

> That's what I've seen them used for,

How about "human heating pad?" They are used for all types of aches and pains. Heck, a shoulder injury when I was a freshman in high school had me using one for weeks. Women, apparently, can use the heat to help with cramps. I can't speak about that one from personal knowledge.

Ok, if it must be so.

> They have adjustable heat (most do, at least [Not hard to control]) and actually do get hot enough.

Have you ever even bothered to TEMP one? I've used them, and I still do in a make-shift quarantine situation when necessary. Using them "always on" IS a fire hazard....knock on wood. I've had them scorch and melt, but nothing worse. That's when I stopped, but I have had them in use for a few years previously. No problems, except THEY ARE TOO HOT. I've had to use them with VERY insulating substrate. Check it. Most, even on low, are WELL above the temps you want for cornsnakes. They have to or they wouldn't be warm enough to do their job on people.

Yah, and (as you say later on) the new ones are cooler, and can even get cooler then that if you adjust their temps, and with new standards, they are becoming less of a fire hazard, even when using them always on. You run the same risk with a regular heat pad. They probably have less of a chance scorching plastic then a regular one.

Granted, maybe they have some new ones that are much cooler. Post the name brand, model number, and temp range on each setting when contained UNDER a cage (not in the open radiating heat), or shut the heck up and stop giving advice that can kill someone's pet! It is not VERY likely with a heating pad on low under good substrate, but I've seen it happen to someone who killed 2 adult corns in sweater boxes with a heating pad on low.....while using newspaper as substrate. Basically, it just baked the snakes.

Yep, new ones are cooler. "Post the name brand, moddel #, etc." is not necessary, it may be helpful, but just an adjustable heating pad from the pharmacy would be an okay description.

> They're cheap, and won't melt the sterilite, and believe it or not, you can leave it on 24/7. I

That doesn't mean it isn't a fire hazard just because you say you can leave it on. Again, I've had them melt the pad itself, and I suspect that might have been a possible incident if the pad would have been on something that would have burnt.

New ones=Same fire hazard as using commercial reptile UTH. You must be using an old one.

Old ones from your grandmother's house or down in the basement=Bad, extreme fire hazard.

> If anything, my mind need a freeze pack

I will not say the obvious. :dunce:

Typo. My mind probably does need an ice pack, as I'm getting a headache.

 

[Lennycorn]

you want the heat pad to cover 1/4 to 1/3 of enclosure. The like you posted said that the pad was only 6" x 8". That is a little too small. It also said that it was only 8 watts which means that it is going to have a hard time maintaining 85*.

The heat and thermostat and extremely important parts of your snakes future. Don't try to save money here. Get good stuff and it will last for years.

Good advice.

Honestley, just go to the local pharmacy and buy an electric heat pad for old people's backs. They work really well, BIOR, and they will last you until you get a full size tank and can get the more expensive and larger one. I doubt a heat lamp would be any safer.

Bad advice.

As simple as that.

 

[KJUN]

To the original poster: you can use a heating pad, but be real careful. The one you listed SHOULD work (it's big enough!) if your house temperature is not too cool or too warm. If your house temp is too cool, then that won't be able to create a warm enough hot spot based on its wattage. If your house temp is too warm, then that might create a too hot spot. You can cool it down with the use of a rheostat, but do NOT use a rheostat on a heating pad. Good chance it isn't safe....and that the heating pad would not work very long under that condition.

Personally, I've never tried to use one of those specific pads (but I've used similar models) or a heating pad regulated by a rheostate. Sorry.

Yep, new ones are cooler. "Post the name brand, moddel #, etc." is not necessary, it may be helpful, but just an adjustable heating pad from the pharmacy would be an okay description.

It IS necessary for me if you expect me to consider this more than uninformed babble. I want to know the name brand, model #, and the maximum temps for the heating pad YOU are claiming is safe to use. I want to know the results of your implied testing based on a max-min thermometer on the inside FLOOR of a cage with the heating pad under it. Tell the type of cage. If I doubt your reported temps, I'll be able to acquire the equipment and test the set-up for myself to confirm your results.

You CLAIM they are cool enough. Prove it. I've giving you an excellent opportunity to prove to me - and everyone else - that you tested this YOURSELF and it works. If you can't report your findings, then you obviously did not test it yourself! Just regurging again? If so, you didn't ask for proof from the original source....which is why this opinion is pointless.

You say it is safe. I ask for proof. Please, just supply the proof that we can verify IF anyone dares to doubt your results.
KJ

 

[susang]

Ok, if it must be so.

patm1313, you dont have to do jack poo, just keep your mouth shut when you don't know what you're talking about. As for cheap the last one I got was $27.00 and the last reptile hear pad I got was $17.00:shrugs:
Although the newer ones are cooler (???) they can still burn a human yes I am an OOOLLLD person and I use one on my back and it can get very hot on my skin. MY grand-daughter used a new one on her stomach (for cramops) fell asleep and had a couple burn blisters.

 

[Lennycorn]

MY grand-daughter used a new one on her stomach (for cramops) fell asleep and had a couple burn blisters.

Clean and apply some neosporin to the affected area, Remove old bedding and use clean cotton sheets until blisters are healed.
It might be a good idea to use a new reptile heating pad like this one.
http://www.zoomed.com/db/products/En...D=2&SearchID=1
Because I read somewhere that they are cooler and are better suited for young farts.

Enjoy you day.

 

[halicorn]

Clean and apply some neosporin to the affected area, Remove old bedding and use clean cotton sheets until blisters are healed.
It might be a good idea to use a new reptile heating pad like this one.
http://www.zoomed.com/db/products/En...D=2&SearchID=1
Because I read somewhere that they are cooler and are better suited for young farts.

Enjoy you day.

Link doesn't work.

 

[Susielea]

I would think a human heat pad would be no use to humans, if the temperature didn't go above 98*F, as that is our body temp, anything lower and it would be a cooling pad :shrugs:

So it would be too hot for corns, unless some sort of insulation was provided between the human heat pad and the enclosure the corn was in, like KJUN said.

By the way, in the UK we pay about £30 for a human heat pad, or £10-£15 for the size of heat mat the OP was asking about, so reptile specific heat mats are cheaper.

 

[halicorn]

I would think a human heat pad would be no use to humans, if the temperature didn't go above 98*F, as that is our body temp, anything lower and it would be a cooling pad :shrugs:

So it would be too hot for corns, unless some sort of insulation was provided between the human heat pad and the enclosure the corn was in, like KJUN said.

By the way, in the UK we pay about £30 for a human heat pad, or £10-£15 for the size of heat mat the OP was asking about, so reptile specific heat mats are cheaper.

What about Flexwatt?

http://www.arbreptiles.com/cages/flexwire.shtml

if so where would I place it ? any picture examples.

Honestley, they will last you until you get a full size tank and can get the more expensive and larger one. I doubt a heat lamp would be any safer.

I am starting a rank system slowly not that I can't afford a full size tank.

Holes have been drilled already.

you want the heat pad to cover 1/4 to 1/3 of enclosure. The like you posted said that the pad was only 6" x 8". That is a little too small. It also said that it was only 8 watts which means that it is going to have a hard time maintaining 85*.

What about a 24watt one? I am just afraid of this pad melting the plastic.

 

[Taryn7]

I use 8w pads - they cover 1/3 of my plastic tubs and they get VERY hot.. Alot hotter than 85* so I use a thermostat. Mine dont nearly melt the tubs either so I think you'll be just fine

 

[patm1313]

It IS necessary for me if you expect me to consider this more than uninformed babble. I want to know the name brand, model #, and the maximum temps for the heating pad YOU are claiming is safe to use. I want to know the results of your implied testing based on a max-min thermometer on the inside FLOOR of a cage with the heating pad under it. Tell the type of cage. If I doubt your reported temps, I'll be able to acquire the equipment and test the set-up for myself to confirm your results.

You CLAIM they are cool enough. Prove it. I've giving you an excellent opportunity to prove to me - and everyone else - that you tested this YOURSELF and it works. If you can't report your findings, then you obviously did not test it yourself! Just regurging again? If so, you didn't ask for proof from the original source....which is why this opinion is pointless.

You say it is safe. I ask for proof. Please, just supply the proof that we can verify IF anyone dares to doubt your results.
KJ

Just for a little proof: I used it from 12/25/07 to 2/20/08, which equals 56 (maybe off by one or two) days, 24/7 That equals 1344 hours, with no burning or fires. That's way more than 24 hours. I will post later with the model number and other info.

For the love of god, I'm not regurging again. I've been there and done that, and now I'm done my post regurge therapy and I'm up to my normal mouse size .

>If you can't report your findings, then you obviously did not test it yourself!

I'll be honest on this. I do have experience on using a heat pad 24/7 (so I "tested" it), and that's all I can say. I'm sorry KJ, but I cant run those tests. The best proof I can give you is what I said above, and that is out of pure personal experience.

Some findings about the heat pad I used:
1. It kept the tank at an acceptable temp for my corn.
2. Was cool enough that I could lift the plastic tank up and immediatley place my hand on it and was able to keep it there without any pain, which would certainley not be hot enough to melt anything.

I'm a little bit displeased about this whole thing. You have to hear me out on this. I finally have a topic where I have 100% experience (pretty rare, eh?), and as soon as I post with my info I get told by KJ that I have to run extensive tests to prove it. IDK....

 

[patm1313]

I would think a human heat pad would be no use to humans, if the temperature didn't go above 98*F, as that is our body temp, anything lower and it would be a cooling pad :shrugs:

Think of this: Why are rectal thermometers so accurate (this is no joke)? Why not just press a thermometer up against your skin? Why is it "hot" when it is 98 degrees outside? It's because your core temp. is probably 98 degrees, but your skin temp is way lower then that, meaning that heat pads do not have to be 98+ degrees to work.

So it would be too hot for corns, unless some sort of insulation was provided between the human heat pad and the enclosure the corn was in, like KJUN said.

Yah, if it was actually 98 degrees .

By the way, in the UK we pay about £30 for a human heat pad, or £10-£15 for the size of heat mat the OP was asking about, so reptile specific heat mats are cheaper.

That's not my expereince, but maybe that has to do with where we live.

 

[patm1313]

I am starting a rank system slowly not that I can't afford a full size tank.

Holes have been drilled already.

Well then, problem solved. "Human" heat mats are way to thick to be used in racks.

 

[susang]

Just a simple test with my new human heating pad on medium setting it reached 100 degrees in less then one miute. Not to mention many of the new heating pads have automatic shut-off. Also I will say again the human heating pad was $27.00 the reptile one $17.00, in the US.