anery B ???

i recently bough an adult pair of corns over here in the UK. They are called Bronzes over here but what do you guys think? Thisis the female and she is very well contrasted. The saddles are jet black. Type B maybe?

thanks
Mark

I would lean more towards it being an 'A' Anerythristic myself.

Agreed, Rich. And a -very- nice specimin of one. Congrats.

-Kat

how does one tell the difference between 'A' and 'B' by looking?

Thanks, Skye

Anerythristic Type "A" • This morph lacks erythrophores, the red pigment in the skin. This type tends to posess a large amount of yellow pigmentation in the neck. It is NOT compatible with Type "B" Anerythrism.


Anerythristic Type "B" • This morph lacks erythrophores, the red pigment in the skin. This type tends to posess a large amount of yellow pigmentation in the neck. It is NOT compatible with Type "A" Anerythrism. AKA : Charcoal

PER:http://www.cornsnakemorphs.com/genetics.html

So then why would this one be anery "A?"

I don't see any yellow on this snake.

Yellow is not a reliable indicator of 'A' Anerythrism. At one time we thought it was, but it was only a coincidental factor. We now know that it is completely independent of the Charcoal gene.

I have lots or 'A' Anerythristics that completely lack any trace of yellow:



And some Charcoals that have substantial amounts of yellow:


You should see the mess I have in my Charcoal Ghost project....

Thank you Rich for posting those wonderful pictures, and clearing up my confusion. I guess it's like all of the other corn snake genes...you never know what is going to pop up!

thanks everyone for the replies. Can i just say Rich, the charcoal photo you have posted is identical to the adult male which was a clutch mate to the female photo i started this thread with.

I'm curious about this one too. There seems to be a lot of confusion between anery A and B here in the UK. Could it be proven by breeding to amels to produce blizzards? I mean, surely blizzards couldn't be confused with snows? I know this would take a while, but could possibly be worthwhile.

easier than that would be to breed to an anery a. if i get anerys it would point towards anery. if normals it points to anery b.
i think...lol

I think you would get more confused, no matter what you do.

The amelanistic component of the Blizzard appears to be a very rich red/orange color, much like you see on some Amelanistic Okeetees. So if you breed a Charcoal to something similar to a Candy Cane, you may not actually get what looks like a Blizzard.

I have bred Blizzard into Lavenders, Blood Reds and Butters, and the resulting Blizzards in the F2 generations are not anywhere near what you would expect. So even the Blizzard can be problematical to identify at times.

And as for breeding Charcoal to 'A' Anery, bear in mind that the original Charcoal was het for 'A' Anerythrism, so there is at least a chance that any given Charcoal may be het for 'A' Anerythrism as well. So the results you get in such a case may not clear much up at all.

I found out that my Charcoal Ghost project has 'A' Anerythrism in it, and if you want to see a confusing mess, well, boy do I have one for you there!

When it gets right down to it, we really don't know what the heck we are doing. Nearly everything is based on assumptions, which lately seem to be proving mostly false.

The amelanistic component of the Blizzard appears to be a very rich red/orange color, much like you see on some Amelanistic Okeetees.

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So the most unicolor blizzards come from the brightest orange amels? That almost seems counter-intuitive...

-Kat