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Fuhgeddaboudit!!!!
Hi Everyone!
My name is Monty and I actually registered on this site last year during the spring when one of my cornsnakes laid a clutch of eggs (9 total) and from which 3 hatched and 1 survived (Ozzy, a beautiful motley bloodred who is up to eating a nice f/t hopper once a week). I've always found great advice from this site and learned a great deal about snakes that I never knew, extremely valuable advice but sometimes in retrospect, since I've had snakes on and off for about forty-something years (I'm in my 50's). However, I believe it's better late than never, right? :eek1:
My current problem involves my three older cornsnakes: I have three 8 year-old corns (1 albino female named Lily, 2 males - 1 albino named Bozo and 1 motley bloodred named Chili-Pepper) who are co-habbed (I only learned that cohabbing corns wasn't a good idea when I registered here last year!). Since my corns have lived together since they were babies and there weren't any problems for all the time I've had them, I have kept them together - all except for their surviving offspring (Ozzy) who is kept separate because of his size difference, in addition to what I've learned here on this site!
My adult corns live in a 65 gallon, nylon screen meshed enclosure with appropriate temperature variances and hides in three different areas of their viv. My snakes are fed separately and I handle all of them at least once weekly. They are all super-friendly, with the exception of the female (Lily), who can be slightly temperamental at times but who has never snapped at me. It's the males though (Bozo & Chili-Pepper) that shocked me recently!
This morning when I was going to change their water, I noticed both of them tangled at the lower half, as if attempting to mate! :sidestep: I know for a fact that they are both males as I have witnessed them mating with Lily over the past 8 years, the first time by accident as I thought they were fighting and when I attempted to separate them . . well, you can guess my shock and awe when my hand got caught between their tails on Bozo's member as he was actually WAY INSIDE LILY!!uke02:
I immediately released them and they actually resumed their business as if nothing occurred! Since that time, during the Spring, I am not caught by surprise when the males sometimes go off their food and how they seem to take turns with Lily, who usually accepts them readily but who sometimes retreats to one of her hides until she is ready! (When that happens, I've noticed that both male snakes actually hang out at separate ends of her hide, which is a actually a hollow, wooden log, as if patiently waiting for her to come out!):nyah:
Today, I witnessed the two males appearing as if they were attempting to mate! I noticed that they were NOT jerking, as if being aggressive towards one another, nor did they appear agitated. Their necks were curved in the same way as if they were mating with Lily, their usual female companion. I did NOT SEE any actual penetration, but every other movement they made were indicative of two cornsnakes mating!
Has anyone else ever had this happen with two male corns? (I searched through the forums and only found one thread that was entitled "Gay Snakes" which unfortunately evolved into a tangential, homophobic rant & rave, but maybe I didn't actually search thoroughly enough (?)).
I apologize for the length of this post, but since it was my FIRST, I felt I had to include some background info.
Any and all feedback regarding this somewhat bizarre behavior will be greatly appreciated!!!!
My name is Monty and I actually registered on this site last year during the spring when one of my cornsnakes laid a clutch of eggs (9 total) and from which 3 hatched and 1 survived (Ozzy, a beautiful motley bloodred who is up to eating a nice f/t hopper once a week). I've always found great advice from this site and learned a great deal about snakes that I never knew, extremely valuable advice but sometimes in retrospect, since I've had snakes on and off for about forty-something years (I'm in my 50's). However, I believe it's better late than never, right? :eek1:
My current problem involves my three older cornsnakes: I have three 8 year-old corns (1 albino female named Lily, 2 males - 1 albino named Bozo and 1 motley bloodred named Chili-Pepper) who are co-habbed (I only learned that cohabbing corns wasn't a good idea when I registered here last year!). Since my corns have lived together since they were babies and there weren't any problems for all the time I've had them, I have kept them together - all except for their surviving offspring (Ozzy) who is kept separate because of his size difference, in addition to what I've learned here on this site!
My adult corns live in a 65 gallon, nylon screen meshed enclosure with appropriate temperature variances and hides in three different areas of their viv. My snakes are fed separately and I handle all of them at least once weekly. They are all super-friendly, with the exception of the female (Lily), who can be slightly temperamental at times but who has never snapped at me. It's the males though (Bozo & Chili-Pepper) that shocked me recently!
This morning when I was going to change their water, I noticed both of them tangled at the lower half, as if attempting to mate! :sidestep: I know for a fact that they are both males as I have witnessed them mating with Lily over the past 8 years, the first time by accident as I thought they were fighting and when I attempted to separate them . . well, you can guess my shock and awe when my hand got caught between their tails on Bozo's member as he was actually WAY INSIDE LILY!!
uke02:I immediately released them and they actually resumed their business as if nothing occurred! Since that time, during the Spring, I am not caught by surprise when the males sometimes go off their food and how they seem to take turns with Lily, who usually accepts them readily but who sometimes retreats to one of her hides until she is ready! (When that happens, I've noticed that both male snakes actually hang out at separate ends of her hide, which is a actually a hollow, wooden log, as if patiently waiting for her to come out!):nyah:
Today, I witnessed the two males appearing as if they were attempting to mate! I noticed that they were NOT jerking, as if being aggressive towards one another, nor did they appear agitated. Their necks were curved in the same way as if they were mating with Lily, their usual female companion. I did NOT SEE any actual penetration, but every other movement they made were indicative of two cornsnakes mating!
Has anyone else ever had this happen with two male corns? (I searched through the forums and only found one thread that was entitled "Gay Snakes" which unfortunately evolved into a tangential, homophobic rant & rave, but maybe I didn't actually search thoroughly enough (?)).
I apologize for the length of this post, but since it was my FIRST, I felt I had to include some background info.
Any and all feedback regarding this somewhat bizarre behavior will be greatly appreciated!!!!
