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2015 Breeding Season
- Thread starter ecreipeoj
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ecreipeoj
Striped Topaz SK SG Free
ecreipeoj
Striped Topaz SK SG Free
Tessera het Sunkissed Lava ph Amel x RC Amel Sunkissed het Lava
Target: Tessera Sunkissed Lava het Amel, Tessera Sunkissed het Amel, Tessera Lava het Amel Sunkissed.
Nothing but awesome offspring have came from this female, and we all know, Tessera will improve them, or you should know.
Target: Tessera Sunkissed Lava het Amel, Tessera Sunkissed het Amel, Tessera Lava het Amel Sunkissed.
Nothing but awesome offspring have came from this female, and we all know, Tessera will improve them, or you should know.
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El Jefe
Mark 16:18
Joe,
Looks like a great season ahead for you. Good luck!
On a side note, I did send an amber (or maybe caramel) to the Golden Corn guy on a breeding loan but I don't know what ever happened with that. He wasn't real good at communication and I got out of cornsnakes about a year later.
Looks like a great season ahead for you. Good luck!
On a side note, I did send an amber (or maybe caramel) to the Golden Corn guy on a breeding loan but I don't know what ever happened with that. He wasn't real good at communication and I got out of cornsnakes about a year later.
ecreipeoj
Striped Topaz SK SG Free
How could he, he was in the Military.
We know what he told us on this forum and another, from the beginning. Lets see if what he told us seems to be true.
I have very high hopes for this year, to be the 2.0 Het Goldens year. Here is the second male breeding the young female I have. She is not the problem, the males had low fertility when bred to some of my Stars, a Striped Butter that laid a bunch of fertile eggs two years in a row.
I get 5 "eggs" and 15 slugs, none go full term, but when opened, there was a difference when you compare them to the other 3 eggs hatched from a Caramel het Lava that was 100% fertile for two years in a row. The old FAT males were not getting the job done.
They have been on a diet, bromated three times now, and kept under 75 for years. This year, they were very excited to join the breeding season.
This is the second Het Golden Corn breeding the only het female I have. I only took photos of the first two breedings, so you won't see any more.
Wait until you see my Landrace het Sunkissed ph Lava Stargazer Free line of Kathy Love Sunkissed Landrace. They are with in my definition of Landrace.
I have a line of original Kathy Love Sunkissed Genetics, tested for SG and ph Lava. I have 3.10 of them. They are SWEET! and gazer free. All I have to do, is breed them, and get Sunkissed, or Sunkissed Lava and another goal will be reached.
ecreipeoj
Striped Topaz SK SG Free
6-4-2015
Do you want to know what I bred on this day?
Do you know what out crossing is? I can do it, so here you go.
RC Bloodred het Lava PS x Het PS Lavender Lava.
Target: Out Cross, to produce PS Lava, ph Lavender.
The two lines are not related in my colony. Last year, I bred Het PS Lava Lavender x Same.
I told you why you only get 1 in 4 PS from a B/PS x Same breeding, but why is it hard to recover the extreme expression of PS?
Maybe the truth is what we use to hear all the time about every new phenotype produced, they were selectively bred to be extreme, like Candy Canes.
If you bred a Candy Cane x Mutant Corn, you will mix the genes and get 50% of the selective breeding of Candy Canes. You will be mixing white paint with Black and getting dark gray.
If you breed simblings together, you are again, mixing dark gray paint. If you breed an offspring back to a Candy Cane, you get light gray paint. if you keep going, they can look like Candy Canes again.
We could jus breed an Candy Cane to a Miami Locality, and avoid all of the problem.
When we breed PS X Bloodred, we mix dark gray paint. so we get mostly low expressing PS. Do some exceptions exist? We can get lucky when we roll the dice, but generally, if we breed PS X PS, we get nice expression. When we outcross, which I like, the select breeding for expression seems to be lost.
So let me repeat: If we consider, Motley and Stripes as alleles, with Motley being dominant over Striped, the same as Bloodred and PS being alleles, with BR dominant over PS, we get 25% PS with low selective bred for expression.
This might be true? I would love to hear another articulated opinion that makes more sense. If we apply this, and it is reproducible, then at least it works.
I want to work towards Out Crossed breedings of PS X PS, and see if we can skip a couple of problems. I have a few breedings this year similar, that may produce.
I will take photos of eggs laid, and hatchlings of some cool stuff this year.
Do you want to know what I bred on this day?
Do you know what out crossing is? I can do it, so here you go.
RC Bloodred het Lava PS x Het PS Lavender Lava.
Target: Out Cross, to produce PS Lava, ph Lavender.
The two lines are not related in my colony. Last year, I bred Het PS Lava Lavender x Same.
I told you why you only get 1 in 4 PS from a B/PS x Same breeding, but why is it hard to recover the extreme expression of PS?
Maybe the truth is what we use to hear all the time about every new phenotype produced, they were selectively bred to be extreme, like Candy Canes.
If you bred a Candy Cane x Mutant Corn, you will mix the genes and get 50% of the selective breeding of Candy Canes. You will be mixing white paint with Black and getting dark gray.
If you breed simblings together, you are again, mixing dark gray paint. If you breed an offspring back to a Candy Cane, you get light gray paint. if you keep going, they can look like Candy Canes again.
We could jus breed an Candy Cane to a Miami Locality, and avoid all of the problem.
When we breed PS X Bloodred, we mix dark gray paint. so we get mostly low expressing PS. Do some exceptions exist? We can get lucky when we roll the dice, but generally, if we breed PS X PS, we get nice expression. When we outcross, which I like, the select breeding for expression seems to be lost.
So let me repeat: If we consider, Motley and Stripes as alleles, with Motley being dominant over Striped, the same as Bloodred and PS being alleles, with BR dominant over PS, we get 25% PS with low selective bred for expression.
This might be true? I would love to hear another articulated opinion that makes more sense. If we apply this, and it is reproducible, then at least it works.
I want to work towards Out Crossed breedings of PS X PS, and see if we can skip a couple of problems. I have a few breedings this year similar, that may produce.
I will take photos of eggs laid, and hatchlings of some cool stuff this year.
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ecreipeoj
Striped Topaz SK SG Free
Het Striped Orchid x Amel het Striped Sukissed Anery
Target: I guess Out Crossed Striped Sunkissed ph Anery Lavender.
Do you know that I have no plan what-so-ever when breeding season starts and just do this from the hip so to speak?
I do it in my head, with what I have. This male is the only one from a 2.1 Het Striped Orchid that proved to be SG free. The other two produced SG'ers.
He needed something to do, and he is nice. This female is not known to be het for Lava, so Outcross, to produce Striped Sunkissed.
Target: I guess Out Crossed Striped Sunkissed ph Anery Lavender.
Do you know that I have no plan what-so-ever when breeding season starts and just do this from the hip so to speak?
I do it in my head, with what I have. This male is the only one from a 2.1 Het Striped Orchid that proved to be SG free. The other two produced SG'ers.
He needed something to do, and he is nice. This female is not known to be het for Lava, so Outcross, to produce Striped Sunkissed.
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ecreipeoj
Striped Topaz SK SG Free
Tessera het Topaz x Butter ph Lava Plasma Strawberry
Target: Caramel Tesseras and with a little luck, Topaz Tesseras.
If they popularity of Topaz over Amber is a contest, with me, then look at Topaz and see their Ruby Eyes and more jeweled appearance than Ambers.
Judge them, not me. I have a LOT, and they are different than Ambers in a very good way.
Target: Caramel Tesseras and with a little luck, Topaz Tesseras.
If they popularity of Topaz over Amber is a contest, with me, then look at Topaz and see their Ruby Eyes and more jeweled appearance than Ambers.
Judge them, not me. I have a LOT, and they are different than Ambers in a very good way.
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ecreipeoj
Striped Topaz SK SG Free
YJ Tessera het Topaz x Topaz het Lavender ph Amel Strawberry
Target:Outcrossed Topaz Tessera.
Yes, don't the Topaz Het Lavender ph Amel Strawberry remind you of the Mystery Line.
They are related, some proved to be Normal het Opal, Strawberry, Lavender, Topaz, from breedings Caramel Bloodred X Lava het Anery.
The Caramel Bloodred was also het for Strawberry and Opal, add Lava and I had 1.2 with six hets and other phs.
I saved all of the combines and today we get to see what they produce. I still like the Strawberry Bloodreds het Topaz, I produced from this line. I need to take some pictures.
Lava Lavender Caramel Bloodreds are pretty light/clear. What are we going to call them? Some are very pink, and some are like Crystal.
Do you like Lavamel? I don't, so don't blame me for the name, it didn't come from me. Come up with a better name, and I am in.
Target:Outcrossed Topaz Tessera.
Yes, don't the Topaz Het Lavender ph Amel Strawberry remind you of the Mystery Line.
They are related, some proved to be Normal het Opal, Strawberry, Lavender, Topaz, from breedings Caramel Bloodred X Lava het Anery.
The Caramel Bloodred was also het for Strawberry and Opal, add Lava and I had 1.2 with six hets and other phs.
I saved all of the combines and today we get to see what they produce. I still like the Strawberry Bloodreds het Topaz, I produced from this line. I need to take some pictures.
Lava Lavender Caramel Bloodreds are pretty light/clear. What are we going to call them? Some are very pink, and some are like Crystal.
Do you like Lavamel? I don't, so don't blame me for the name, it didn't come from me. Come up with a better name, and I am in.
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ecreipeoj
Striped Topaz SK SG Free
Magma ph Charcoal x Anery het Striped Lava Lavender Blood
Target: Out crossed Magmas.
I like that name, who came up with it?
I had this guy, and several females with these genes. He wanted to help and I only breed my males at the most, 2 days apart.
Can you see how YJ, is effecting Magma here? I have Magmas that are much cooler, which would make them red. RedCoat Magmas without YJ, look different than this male.
Target: Out crossed Magmas.
I like that name, who came up with it?
I had this guy, and several females with these genes. He wanted to help and I only breed my males at the most, 2 days apart.
Can you see how YJ, is effecting Magma here? I have Magmas that are much cooler, which would make them red. RedCoat Magmas without YJ, look different than this male.
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ecreipeoj
Striped Topaz SK SG Free
Lava Lavender Caramel het Fire x Anery het Striped Lava Lavender Blood
Target: Outcrossed Lava Lavender Bloodred het Anery Caramel
If I get some of these genes mixed up and you see something that is not possible, point it out, so I can corrected it.
What is the rule, for which way to list genes.
This female could be an Anery het Striped Lava Plasma or Anery het Lava Lav Striped Bloodred.
What are we going to call a Lava "Ameretto" (Hypo Lavender Caramel), When Lava is used instead of Hypo. They look close to a Blizzard, but look like what mineral?
Target: Outcrossed Lava Lavender Bloodred het Anery Caramel
If I get some of these genes mixed up and you see something that is not possible, point it out, so I can corrected it.
What is the rule, for which way to list genes.
This female could be an Anery het Striped Lava Plasma or Anery het Lava Lav Striped Bloodred.
What are we going to call a Lava "Ameretto" (Hypo Lavender Caramel), When Lava is used instead of Hypo. They look close to a Blizzard, but look like what mineral?
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Mitchell Mulks
New member
Well, I guess I get to toot my own horn, as I coined the name about three years ago. It seemed at the time that that should be the trade name for an all red lava! Glad you like it.
Very nice season you seem to be having already. It'll be great to see your hatchlings. Btw, do you happen to know the possible hets that female topaz motley I got from you might be carrying?