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3-year Old Male Champaigne Snow Dead, Unkown Causes!

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mjackso630

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This morning during routine cleaning, we discovered our 3-year old male champaigne dead in his tub! He had a history of lethargic behavior and very odd (hard to describe), foul smelling excrement, plus reluctant on/off feeding. We suspected some sort of neurological condition, as he also had occasional tremors, almost like a palsey, but we didn't think whatever was going on was life threatening. We don't think parasites were involved (no signs of external or internal 'bugs'), and since he was the only one of our snakes with problems like this, we found disease/toxic exposure unlikely. We're not sure if he had a genetic or congenital problem or what, but we really need to figure this one out for the sake of our other snakes!
 
Thank You

daddio207 said:
Do you recall where you purchased him ?

And welcome to the forum :)
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We got him from South Mountain Reptiles a little over a year ago. They're extremely reputable (as I'm sure you're aware), and we'd emailed Don a few months ago regarding his symptoms. Don wasn't sure what was going on either, but he didn't seem to think it was anything life threatening. We'd just bred him, and he seemed to be doing okay, which is why his death just kind of hit out of the blue.
 
Good Idea, But...

Ravenessa said:
I would take to get him necropsied <3 sorry for your loss and welcome to the forum.
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That's a good idea, but unfortunately, it had been a little more than a day since I last checked on him, and when I opened up his cage, he'd already started to decay (stench, a couple of flies, etc.) We went ahead and disposed of the body. The other thing, of course, is that there's not a herpetological vet within 50 miles of where we live, and I can only imagine what a necropsy would cost (a lot more than we can afford). Thank you, though, for the idea and the condolences.
 
So sorry for your loss! I have been reading a lot on these forums and throughout the web over the past few days. I also have a LARGE snow corn, who has occasional head tremors or trembles or twitches, especially after eating. In these forums alone I have seen a handful of larger than normal snows, and a couple other tremors posts.

Just a thought (and sorry if this sounds dumb), but could snow morphs specifically have some sort of defect neurologically or otherwise causing tremors and larger than normal sizes? Or am I just coincidentally clicking on topics that include all 3 observations?
 
mjackso630 said:
We got him from South Mountain Reptiles a little over a year ago. They're extremely reputable (as I'm sure you're aware), and we'd emailed Don a few months ago regarding his symptoms. Don wasn't sure what was going on either, but he didn't seem to think it was anything life threatening. We'd just bred him, and he seemed to be doing okay, which is why his death just kind of hit out of the blue.
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I'm sorry he passed away....

The reason I asked was because I have champagne's in my collection which I got directly from Pasco Paul the originator of the morph. They are a line bred morph. SMR is certainly HIGHLY reputable as is Paul. The one thing that stuck out to me from all the things you listed is the odd fecal smell. Mine also exhibit that. But no other symptoms except for the one I lost as a yearling a few months ago that just didn't want to thrive. She also fed erratically and lethargic along with the odd fecal smell. Even though I know Paul outbreeds the line I wonder if it's a genetic issue due to interbreeding. Just a thought....
 
It sounds like it may be something genetic, then, maybe specific to the champaign snows. Thank you very much for your input!
 
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