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A little help please!

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Cursed_Witch

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This must have been asked so many times, but i did try to search and couldn't come up with the answer.

I came home tonight and found something in the viv that looked like a partial regurge.
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I don't really know why! But i do believe there are a few details i should mention in order to come up with the answer.
This was his 5th feeding after his regurge a little more than a month ago. Whenever Strewie (my snake) eats, he usually defecates in less than a 24h period!!! then he keeps doing it for the next 2 or 3 days.
So this last time i fed him, i got the pinkies from a different store than i used to. Would that be the reason? I also included the pic so that someone could determine if the size was too big or the color seemed ok.
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And one more thing, the regurge part was dry but when i was scooping it along with the dry poop i found a fresh one that smelled bad. (that would be the black part on the top-right corner of pic 1)
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Sorry the pics are big!
Thanks
 
Sorry but I can't help you never had a regurge. yet. Thank God. but I read that if you feed more than four days before the "regurge" than it might not be. You can't tell by smell cause you weren't home so ???? Sorry can't help more

Good Luck
 
When I had a possible partial regurge I was told to treat it as such. It does look more like a regurge than just feces. It won't hurt him to skip a meal if he has otherwise been eating well. Not a definite answer, but hope it helps.Good luck.
 
Lennycorn said:
Sorry but I can't help you never had a regurge. yet. Thank God. but I read that if you feed more than four days before the "regurge" than it might not be. You can't tell by smell cause you weren't home so ???? Sorry can't help more

Good Luck
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Thanks Lenny, but i didn't actually understand what you were saying.:(
I pretty much explained that its the second regurge. I had one 5 weeks ago. So it's not that i didnt wait 4 days. When he had the 1st regurge, i actually waited more than what was needed, 12 days.
But for this particular time, i am surprised at the amount of feces it produced even though it has partialy regurged the bottom half of the pinkie even more, after the regurge he defecated!

I believe it was the pinkies from the new store, as in the pic, it looks like the pinkie is missing its intestins or something, it's flat, and that is exactly the part it has regurgitated!
So should i not feed him from the same pinkies and buy from a new place?
 
Sorry, but I was tired when I wrote my reply.

I thought I read that it's rare for a snake to regurge after four days or so.
So it might not be a regurge and you can't tell by the smell because it ("regurge") old.
But after reading the other posts I would do as they stated.
Sounds good to me.


Good luck with your problem
 
I think you need to look at your temps. Incomplete digestion and regurges can happen if the temps are too high or too low. It's not always clear (to me anyway) which end of the snake some of these things come from. I've seen dry, rolled up pinky skin in feces and by itself. I had my temps a little too high earlier in the year, and I saw a number of these "pinky mummies." Since I adjusted my temps to stay in the low eighties on the warm side of the tubs, and since I started adding Nutri-bac to my supplement mixture, these problems have been all but eliminated.

You may also want to add an additional day between feedings.

Good luck!
 
So nobody thinks that the pinkie was suspicious! I mean there was nothing in the the lower part of the pinkie just skin!

I also found a new thing in the viv last night which was the weirdest thing i have ever seen. And the confusing part was that it was white at first, i left it in and woke up in the morning and found it all blackened! If it was feces, he never defecated anything that looks like that or ever this much!
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Cursed_Witch said:
So nobody thinks that the pinkie was suspicious! I mean there was nothing in the the lower part of the pinkie just skin!

I also found a new thing in the viv last night...
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Do you mean that the partially digested pinky's lower part was just skin, or that it was like this when it was intact before feeding? In my experience, the skin seems to be the hardest part of the pinky for a snakeling to digest. Have you tried cutting slits in the pink before feeding?

If you're truly concerned, you might want to take a fecal sample to a qualified herp vet.
 
Roy Munson said:
Do you mean that the partially digested pinky's lower part was just skin, or that it was like this when it was intact before feeding? In my experience, the skin seems to be the hardest part of the pinky for a snakeling to digest. Have you tried cutting slits in the pink before feeding?

If you're truly concerned, you might want to take a fecal sample to a qualified herp vet.
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I mean if you look at the pic i took when he was eating, the pinkie is full on the head part but nothing in the bottom, it looks like a mountain and a valley! if you get what i mean. All the other pinkies i have fed him before were fuller in the bottom, so yes it looked like it was only skin before he ate and that was exactly the part he regurgitated!
This was his 7th feeding (without ever cutting any slits) ever since i got him and he regurgitated only once before because i did not have my temps adjusted to the weather yet. But now my temps are great. But im trying to find out if there is anything to worry about, like is it normal for him to poop this much when he has never pooped as much? or like the pic that i posted last, looks so weird to me! Almost scary (i have a phobia for worms etc...)
I would love to go to a herp vet but right now the circumstances im in cannot let me!
 
Cursed_Witch said:
I mean if you look at the pic i took when he was eating, the pinkie is full on the head part but nothing in the bottom, it looks like a mountain and a valley! if you get what i mean. All the other pinkies i have fed him before were fuller in the bottom, so yes it looked like it was only skin before he ate and that was exactly the part he regurgitated!
This was his 7th feeding (without ever cutting any slits) ever since i got him and he regurgitated only once before because i did not have my temps adjusted to the weather yet. But now my temps are great. But im trying to find out if there is anything to worry about, like is it normal for him to poop this much when he has never pooped as much? or like the pic that i posted last, looks so weird to me! Almost scary (i have a phobia for worms etc...)
I would love to go to a herp vet but right now the circumstances im in cannot let me!
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The color on the pink is ok, but I don't like the idea that its back-end is deflated. I'd replace the pinks, start slitting, verify temps, and keep an eye on the snake.
 
I have noticed that when you get pinks that seem like there is nothing or just mush in the back end, then the mouse was thawed, then frozen, and thawed again. I order mice in bulk orders, and one time while I was getting mice out to feed with, I got one too many, but because of the heat, the moust started to thaw before I was able to get it back in the freezer. When I took it out the next week to feed it, after it was thawed, the back end was all mush. I just ended up throwing out that mouse becasue I didn't like what the back end was doing.
 
pcar said:
I have noticed that when you get pinks that seem like there is nothing or just mush in the back end, then the mouse was thawed, then frozen, and thawed again. I order mice in bulk orders, and one time while I was getting mice out to feed with, I got one too many, but because of the heat, the moust started to thaw before I was able to get it back in the freezer. When I took it out the next week to feed it, after it was thawed, the back end was all mush. I just ended up throwing out that mouse becasue I didn't like what the back end was doing.
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Thats exactly what i thought. I had a very strong feeling the pinkie was behind the regurge. I was out of pinkies and i had to get them from a local petstore. Im gonna throw the rest of them. Aargh, im so pissed! He kept defecating like he has diarrhea or something. The pics show it!
I guess now im supposed to wait 10 days and feed him again.

BTW, im trying to see if the resizing would work!
Here's a pic of Stewie, im trying to determine the sex!
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The tail looks to be the same width most of the way down past the vent, which would lead me to believe Male. So that I what I am guessing.
 
pcar said:
The tail looks to be the same width most of the way down past the vent, which would lead me to believe Male. So that I what I am guessing.
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Dont worry. Nobody can tell by pictures let alone a lousy pic.
I just want to find out cause, if it turns out he's a she... then the name Stewie would be ridiculous for it!
 
I have thrown all the pinkies i got from the petstore... I got the new ones. they are half thawed because of the trip to the house. But i am not sure if i should feed tonight, Its been 5 days since the partial regurge!
Please let me know.... i dont want to freeze them then thaw them again. I dont know if ill have the same problem!
 
I would do as stated before wait ten days and feed smaller amount (pinky head). Couldn't you bring a small cooler to keep them frozen???
 
Lennycorn said:
I would do as stated before wait ten days and feed smaller amount (pinky head). Couldn't you bring a small cooler to keep them frozen???
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A cooler in the car???
It was a 30 min trip! I didnt think they would thaw that fast. I mean this IS Massachusetts! It is 25 degrees outside!
Last time i was told to wait 10 days, i waited 14 and fed him a normal pinkie, no head no tail and he ate it and it was fine!
I hope things will be ok this time!
 
Cursed_Witch said:
A cooler in the car???
It was a 30 min trip! I didnt think they would thaw that fast. I mean this IS Massachusetts! It is 25 degrees outside!
Last time i was told to wait 10 days, i waited 14 and fed him a normal pinkie, no head no tail and he ate it and it was fine!
I hope things will be ok this time!
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Your name have anything to do with Massachusetts?
 
Cursed_Witch said:
A cooler in the car???
It was a 30 min trip! I didnt think they would thaw that fast. I mean this IS Massachusetts! It is 25 degrees outside!
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Are you using the heater?
 
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