another what would i get questions!!!

[twodogs]

pretty new to this and not a fantastic amount of info here in the good old uk,apart from nige off course,anyway amel stripe x carmel and while were at it what about amel stripe x anery motley stripe,dont know of any hets in either :shrugs:

 

[Joejr14]

pretty new to this and not a fantastic amount of info here in the good old uk,apart from nige off course,anyway amel stripe x carmel and while were at it what about amel stripe x anery motley stripe,dont know of any hets in either :shrugs:

Amel stripe x caramel = 100% normals, het for amel, caramel, stripe.

Amel stripe x Anery mot/stripe= 50% stripes het amel, anery; 50% stripe/mots het anery, amel.

 

[twodogs]

ok thanks for that,with the amel/anery stripe combo what are the chances of producing snow,i also have a mot ghost stripe,combining this with the amel would that produce anerys and ghosts?

 

[cornmorphs]

with butter being an amel caramel, you should be lucky enough to produce one or two butters in that i would think.

 

[twodogs]

thats exactly what i was thinking amel x caramel = butter or at least hets maybe im wrong you guys in the states seem miles ahead lol,where does the normal come in to it?

 

[CaptBogart]

i also have a mot ghost stripe,combining this with the amel would that produce anerys and ghosts?

You would get 50% striped/motley het for snow and hypo and 50% sriped, het for snow and hypo. If you bred the offspring together you could get a long list of morphs including your anerys and ghosts. You should download the corn predictor and then spend hours planning future pairings like I do ....

 

[Serpwidgets]

It completely depends on what exactly the "anery motley stripe" and "motley ghost stripe" actually are. When dealing with motley and stripe crosses, it's important to be sure of the genotype of the individuals. Stripe is recessive to motley, and "motley stripe" patterning is not a definite indicator that the stripe gene is there.

So if you are breeding a motley with a stripey pattern to a stripe, this doesn't mean you will be getting any stripes... you might get a whole clutch of typical looking motleys.

One thing you can count on is that crossing a motley and/or stripe to a motley and/or stripe, you will get non-normal (motley or stripe) patterns. The other thing you can count on is if you cross two stripes, you will get all stripes (and/or cubes) and no motleys.

(And no, the progeny predictors will not be able to work out the logic of these in order to supply you with answers as to what genotypes your motley stripes are.)

 

[cornmorphs]

thats alright then, i thought i was going mental

 

[twodogs]

Stripe is recessive to motley, and "motley stripe" patterning is not a definite indicator that the stripe gene is there.

So if you are breeding a motley with a stripey pattern to a stripe, this doesn't mean you will be getting any stripes... you might get a whole clutch of typical looking motleys.

stripe is recessive to motley? still new to me,what does this mean? as i understand stripes have no belly pattern like mine and are plain with no "checks" is that correct? so if my mots (ghost and anery)have no pattern they carry the stripe gene?

 

[cornmorphs]

they both have no belly patterns paul

 

[twodogs]

thanks nige,so whats recessive?

 

[bribrian]

thanks nige,so whats recessive?

It means motley is dominant to stripe & when you have a dominant/recessive pair of alleles only the dominant trait shows up, in this case motley as opposed to stripe....

think my wordings right....

 

[twodogs]

It means motley is dominant to stripe & when you have a dominant/recessive pair of alleles only the dominant trait shows up, in this case motley as opposed to stripe....

think my wordings right....

cheers thanks for that. learn something new every day

 

[Serpwidgets]

Yep, that's right. Genes are paired up at each locus, one came from the dad via the sperm cell, one from the mom via the egg cell. So when two different genes (alleles) are paired up at the same locus, they can either be:

1- a dominant/recessive pair, where only the dominant allele is expressed, and the recessive allele has no visible effect. This is what happens with motley/stripe genotypes.

or

2- they can have a codominant relationship, where the resulting appearance is something different than either of the other two, often a blending of the two alleles' effects. This is what happens with ultra/amel genotypes.

:cheers:

 

[bribrian]

Yep, that's right. Genes are paired up at each locus, one came from the dad via the sperm cell, one from the mom via the egg cell. So when two different genes (alleles) are paired up at the same locus, they can either be:

1- a dominant/recessive pair, where only the dominant allele is expressed, and the recessive allele has no visible effect. This is what happens with motley/stripe genotypes.

or

2- they can have a codominant relationship, where the resulting appearance is something different than either of the other two, often a blending of the two alleles' effects. This is what happens with ultra/amel genotypes.

:cheers:

Better worded & alot easier to understand than my explanation... :grin01:
'Expertly' written.....