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Arboreal behavior

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campmor52

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I have had several snakes none that I have ever bred, but am thinking of incorporating an arboreal setup for my largest corn. Any ideas if corns will be excited or even use the "tree-type" structure i setup.
any ideas or previous set-up hints let me know.
campmor52
 
Depends on the snake.

I have some good branches in my 125 Gal and my Corn will not touch them. He enjoys the ground and wont even climb to the top to try and push it open as many of my past corns have done.
 
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but some of your previous snakes have used the tree branches? I just wonder if mine would enjoy. I guess Ill try and see what happens.
thanks for the reply!
Campmor52
 
well my little corn rainoo seems to prefer to be high up than on the ground other than when she's hidding away to shed or digest shes normally sat on her log.
 
I have an Amel in a 40 Gallon hexagon shaped arboreal tank. I had an extra branch setup from my Sugar Gliders that they didn't need and I put it in there. He loves it! at least once a day I catch him sitting at the top basking in the daylight. He seems to like to sleep up there during the day when the sun shines in his cage at that same spot.
 
My '05 and '04 corns love to hang out at a branch or other high place. The adult ones prefer the floor.
 
:twohammer I think different snakes would give different answers. When I grew up in Florida I saw and found corns way up in trees but my one Amel won't even crawl up on anything in her cage. Put her up in anything and she heads for the surface.

I had a ball python at one time and they are just not known for liking trees at all but this one acted like a green tree python except he wasn't a jerk and did not bite. Honestly I don't know why people bother to keep those things! Tree pythons and boa are just freaky nasty jerks :twoguns:

So just try it your snake may love it or not care. Only way to know is to give him the option,

Jack
 
jjspirko said:
Honestly I don't know why people bother to keep those things! Tree pythons and boa are just freaky nasty jerks :twoguns:
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NOW...That's uncalled for. Tree Pythons and boas are freaky nasty jerks if their owners are freaky nasty jerks. They have their own personalities, just like our corns.
Try the arboreal set up...if your corn likes it, great!!
 

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I know your comment about pythons and boas was a joke but have you ever had one? I have 2 red tails and they are the best snakes I've had. All my corn wants to do is hide and he is easily spooked. However, he does look very nice, but Red Tails couldn't care less and look amazing. And you can actually hold them without worry about them trying to get away.
 
CMatt2157 said:
I know your comment about pythons and boas was a joke but have you ever had one? I have 2 red tails and they are the best snakes I've had. All my corn wants to do is hide and he is easily spooked. However, he does look very nice, but Red Tails couldn't care less and look amazing. And you can actually hold them without worry about them trying to get away.
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Are we talking about red tail boas? Or what I mentioned Green Tree and Emerals? Redtails and most boas tend to become quite docile even if a little high strung as hatchlings. Agreed! They also like to climb and will do it a lot but I would not call them aborial as in lives in the trees most to all of the time. I would put Jungle Carpets in this class too though they are more aborial then a red tail. They also bite a bit as babies but become calm and easy to handle.

Green Trees and Emeralds though are not the same (IN MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE). You may get the exception but most stress easily and live by the creed "if it has a heat signature bite it".
 
Right on, Thought you were talking about all boas and pythons. However, I've never had emeralds or green trees so you probably would know more.
 
jjspirko said:
Are we talking about red tail boas? Or what I mentioned Green Tree and Emerals? Redtails and most boas tend to become quite docile even if a little high strung as hatchlings. Agreed! They also like to climb and will do it a lot but I would not call them aborial as in lives in the trees most to all of the time. I would put Jungle Carpets in this class too though they are more aborial then a red tail. They also bite a bit as babies but become calm and easy to handle.

Green Trees and Emeralds though are not the same (IN MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE). You may get the exception but most stress easily and live by the creed "if it has a heat signature bite it".
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As far as bitey snakes go, there's a simple rule I follow. If the snake strikes at me while I'm trying to pick it up, I use a hook. If while in my hand it bites me without due cause, it's a display animal. That being said, I have 6 GTPs. 5 cbb, 1 cb. 3 of the cbb, aru locality, can be handled day or night, and I've only been biten once by a juvie. the other 3, 2 biak and a cb aru, will bite given the slightest opportunity once the lights go off...during the day, I can clean their cage ect, as long as I don't touch them, without getting bit.

Carpets can be nippy as babies, but calm down. Boas, as long as they're handled properly, stay pretty mellow. I even have some imported peruvians that were nasty when I first got them...now, they come up to the front of the tub in hopes I'll take them out as opposed to hoping they'd get a chance to bite me.

And like said before, I've seen corns that like to climb, and I've seen corns that like to burrow. Give the arboreal set-up a shot...if he likes it, great. If not, go with a critter cage that's got a lot of surface area and give him a good layer of aspen bedding he can burrow through.
 
I would say my Green tree pythons are the calmest, most gentle snakes in my collection. Tempest especially is as docile as they come. After lights out is another story though.....
 
MegF. said:
I would say my Green tree pythons are the calmest, most gentle snakes in my collection. Tempest especially is as docile as they come. After lights out is another story though.....
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whattttt? lies!
 
Kailaa said:
whattttt? lies!
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Nope,not a lie. I would allow anyone to handle her, even a child if they were gentle enough. After dark, she's a killer, but during daylight hours she is absolutely the best. She has never ever bitten me, not even when you would think she would. She once got stuck in tape in her enclosure and even with her panicking, wrapped in tape, she never bit or even offered to bite while I got her loose. She and Whisper are both a dream to handle.
 
My jungle carpet boy form 2005 is still a bit flighty when I pick him up, but never threatens to bite, he only once head bumped me. There is something calm over him compared to corns, even if he tries to get away when you pick himup. He does never squirk. In hands he is calm and does not try to get away at all. I love it!
 
There are SOME Green Tree Pythons, Emerald Tree Boas and related sub species that will be calm and tame to handle. Yet Meg you know very well you animal is the exception NOT the rule and further that she is part of a VERY SMALL minority.

If you had twenty of them in cages lined up in a row and when by and stuck your hand in each cage by the time you were done you would have 15-19 bites and that would be with out picking them up.

They just have a tendency to be this way. They are nervous animals, with a lot of patience SOME can be tamed but honestly taming a young black racer is easier to do and that ain't easy either, :sidestep:

On the Jungle Carpet as I stated previously they seem to just about always tame down. Sometimes nippy as babies but handle them and they chill pretty fast. If handled often by the time they are big enough to give a real nasty bite they are well past being nippy.

For those with room to have them where they can be displayed they are also an excellent choice for that. They do not hide all the time like most corns do, they are beautiful and just really cool snakes.

Once I really get my African House Snakes producing and have more time I am going to get one myself,
 
Actually, that is not true. I have handled a number of GTP's from various collections and all were fine with handling. I actually had more problems with the carpet pythons than GTP's. Have you actually owned any gtp's or are you just going with the stuff that most people have heard? Biaks tend to be quite nippy, but the mainland animals, Sorongs, Jaya's and Aru's tend to be more tractable and as more Captive born and bred animals are produced this is becoming more common. Most animals people originally came into contact with were wild caught and responded accordingly. I think it colored people's ideas about the temperament of the animals.
 
Meg there is an old song that goes,

"There ain't no good guy, there ain't no bad guy, there's only you and me and we just disagree"

I think that applies here. I have a lot of experience with aborial boas, I have never kept on personaly due to that experience. I do believe they can be tamed some what and I do believe some are naturaly better natured then others.

Heck I am the guy who made a case for selective breeding of black racers to eventually produce some a bit more mellow because I think a tame black racer would be a BEAUTIFUL captive rivaling even an indigo. They are intellegent (as snakes go) active and strikingly beautiful glossy black. They are also mean as hell by nature.

Glad your animals are easy to handle but I would advise anyone that reaches into a cage with a GTP or ETB that they do so at their own risk, :devil01:

Who knows may be I am wrong. I work mostly with House Snakes and many say as babies they bite and that Wild Caught always bite and the in general they bite period. Even some that breed them seem to think this way.

My stock is made up of Wild Caught and Captive Bred. They orginate from the bottom of South Africa to the northern most reaches of Tanzania and only ONE time did ONE ever strike at me. It was a juvinal in my left hand and she struck my right thumb. It was comical really had I not been watching I never would have known.

Let a 4 foot plus Boa latch onto a forearm though and you will indeed notice. On the carpets I have always found animals that were handled often to calm down and make great pets,
 
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