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Are bubblegum and neon corn snakes the same?

Kethryanne

Kethryanne

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As a newbie I am still getting used to the terminology. I just read the corn morph guide and I have some questions I was hoping someone could help me clear up a couple questions.

I have heard the term "neon" to describe pink and green snows as well as "bubblegums". Neon is not mentioned in the morph guide at all so i am wondering are the same coloration of snake. When I googled neon corn snakes i found sites stating that neon was an extremely bright coloration of various colorations. Therefore I am looking for info to get the right info. Thanks
 
I can help with that.
Yes...and No.
They are both "just" snow's. But they are snows that specialize in a certain level of other colors.

Poppycorn is famouse for her neons See picture number one.
The second is a bubblegum from Ian's site.
See the HUGE difference?
 

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Ok so now if I understand how this works the neon means that the colors are intensified because there is strawberry in the mix as opposed to the bublegums who don't have the strawberry gene. Right?
 
I don't think there is strawberry in the poppycorn line. strawberry was once though to be an odd hypo for such a long time, there are a few lines with the hidden strawberry though. I think it is what is known as the "red factor." Test breedings must be down with all of these odd lines to prove out strawberry. Many breeders like the red factor look and work it into their projects without proving the strawberry gene and instead calling the products "red coats" or just using the acceptable term "red factor." Working these corns into bloodred projects should make for some stunning red snakes.

So to answer your question: Bubblegums are line breed snows for prettiness. Some neon lines may have the hidden strawberry or there may be another factor in the mix jet unproven.
 
Note : A thorough search of the keywords involved will avoid any hasty generalizations and confusion on this subject.
StrangeCargo said:
It's already been done for years now by Don Soderberg of SMR- Cayanne Fires

http://www.cornsnakes.net/gallery.php?catid=5&id=250
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Thank you, Graham.
Yes, years.

Neon...implies green...refers to snows with pale neon green. This has no relationship to strawberry.
Bubblegum snows are linebred for (mild, but obvious) pinkness. They often have some degree of neon green on the saddles and belly scales. No strawberry involved.
Many run of the mill snows mature to have sometimes less sometimes more...green neon-ish sheen on them, usually the saddles.

Strawberry is a form of hypo, allelic to (and codominant to) hypo.

Don's cayenne line ("cayenne" is a word coined by poppycorn), what he loosely refers to as red factor, is a linebred trait that makes light snakes pinker/redder, oranges redder, and bloodreds' red patterns blend more as they mature. No strawberry involved.
Cayenne line = red factor ≠ strawberry.

(Don, Marsha, John, or Rob...please feel free to come and correct any generalizations or mis-wordings on my part.)
 
You're welcome. I tried.

I have some cayenne fires and cayenne line ultramel bloodreds. And I have some pretty pink bubblegum snows. And that doggone (neon) green is coming in nice and good on one. :laugh:
 
I wasn't sure about the cayenne fires having strawberry or not. I thought they looked too orange. I've done a lot of searching on the strawberry morph and some of the info I've found contradicts what other's have stated. Genetic research without being able to actually look over the animals in question is difficult.
 
With all the various terms to describe similar colors it makes it challenging at times to understand. However, I am starting to understand it a lot more now.
 
vetusvates said:
You're welcome. I tried.

I have some cayenne fires and cayenne line ultramel bloodreds. And I have some pretty pink bubblegum snows. And that doggone (neon) green is coming in nice and good on one. :laugh:
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I am determined to get a line of white snakes with that pretty green if it is the last thing I do.....Sigh! But if someone gets it done before me, I will be just as happy. I just want a housefull of them. :D
 
smallet said:
I am determined to get a line of white snakes with that pretty green if it is the last thing I do.....Sigh! But if someone gets it done before me, I will be just as happy. I just want a housefull of them. :D
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I feel the same way about the morphs I want to produce.
 
Neon Snows

The Neon Snow corns that I was producing many years back did not prove compatible with the other known Bubblegum/Pink&Green Snows that Loyd Lemke used to produce years ago. Marsha (poppycorns) since bred my line of Neon Snows into SMR Coral Snows which she has been producing some pretty amazing Pink animals . I used Neon to describe the brightness of pink colors these animals showed.
 
Thank you, Stephen. I was waiting for an expert to come along and set the terms straight.

Now how do I get this pale chartreuse green off of my pretty pink snake? :D ;)
 
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