Baby snake help

[griff531]

If you have a pet store that sells live mice, breed them and you wont have to worry about paying for pinkies

 

[lilbug82]

I know that's the cheaper way to go but at $1 a mouse it's not that big of a deal. And I also bred bugs do my chameleon so mice to would just get to be to much.

 

[susang]

Curious you said the temp is 87* in your house, but what is the temp in the viv over the heat pad?

 

[lilbug82]

I don't have the heat pad on cause it's to hot, when I did have it on the snake never went near it and spent more time in its water and trying to get out. It made the cage way to hot.

 

[susang]

OK heat pad off but what is the temp inside the viv say under a hide and where the baby hangs out?

 

[lilbug82]

It's the same as the house

 

[susang]

I think the key is temp as it isn't a constant temp of 87* in your house. I have used fans in really hot weather, but the temp needs to be monitored. Today where I live it is 97* but tonight it will be in the mid 70*s.
The mouse needs to be really warm/hot when you feed it. some snakes don't like the smell of thawed mice, that's why some said to wash it. Some snakes want the mouse washed and dried, some like them wet.

 

[susang]

It's the same as the house

How are you measruing the temp, it is not common for every area of ones house to be the exact same temp.

 

[lilbug82]

No it's not alway 87, if you read about I said at night it drops maybe 10 degess. It's also a very dry heat here. That's why I said I try feeding her at night.

 

[lilbug82]

It's a small house, livingroom and kitchen are pretty much te same thing. I have a thermometer in the kitchen and there is one in the snake cage, bedrooms upstairs are even worse then the main floor. The bathroom on the main floor is the o my cooler place and that's cause it has no windows, but I am not putting a snake in my bathroom.

 

[susang]

Sorry I didn't see the 10* drop comment. I'm trying to help but it is unrealistic to say the temp is 'the same as the house'. People keep corns in the desert and they eat. Given everything else seems OK with your hatchling the temp is important and so is the temp of the pinkie. If you are using a stickie temp thing on the side of the viv, it is not the best way to measure temp in viv, neither is your kitchen temp.

 

[lilbug82]

No I don't use the sticky ones, I use digital ones with the snake and my chameleons I also have the infrared thermometers that you point and it shots a lazer that reads the temp. I don't see how you can say my house can't be all the same temp when you don't know what my house looks like. I get your trying to help but I am very capable of reading the temps in my house and am well aware of proper thermometers. I am not new to snakes, just new to one that doesn't want to eat.

 

[susang]

No I don't know your house or your experience, sorry just trying to help.

 

[lilbug82]

It's ok. It is odd but like I said its a small open house and it's all big windows, yes people in deserts raise snakes and where I live is almost a desert. My chameleons have a hard time here to, I can't have heat lamps on during the summer cause it's to hot and I have to put them in the shower cause it is so dry here just misting Thier cages doesn't keep them hydrated enough. I'm just looking for help getting her to eat, my son has wanted a snake since he was 3, he has saved up for 3 yrs to buy one and I don't want it to die on him.

 

[susang]

Curious you said the temp is 87* in your house, but what is the temp in the viv over the heat pad?[/QUOTE]

OK heat pad off but what is the temp inside the viv say under a hide and where the baby hangs out?

It's the same as the house

How are you measruing the temp, it is not common for every area of ones house to be the exact same temp.

No I don't use the sticky ones, I use digital ones with the snake and my chameleons I also have the infrared thermometers that you point and it shots a lazer that reads the temp. I don't see how you can say my house can't be all the same temp when you don't know what my house looks like. I get your trying to help but I am very capable of reading the temps in my house and am well aware of proper thermometers. I am not new to snakes, just new to one that doesn't want to eat.

OK but you realize many people come on this forum who know nothing about temps and how to measure them. Which is why a page ago I asked how you measured temps. !!!! If you had said lazer and infrared I wouldn have dropped this a page ago. I hope your baby starts eating for you.

 

[lilbug82]

I get that, trust me I see alot of that on the chameleon forum.

 

[diamondlil]

Can you rig up a swamp cooler? A fan blowing over iced water would help some with the heat and the humidity

 

[lilbug82]

so i tried the putting the snake in a container alone with the mouse all night thing and it still didnt eat. any other suggestions?

 

[bitsy]

I think trying to cool one end of the tank artificially is your best bet. If it's too warm and the snake can't thermoregulate then it can't digest properly, which would actually make eating dangerous as a regurge risk. It's been a problem for a lot of folks this summer.

Apart from that, have you worked through all the tips for non-feeders in the FAQ?
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28342

You can add to that the rather odd trick of putting the hatchling in a tub next to a working dryer. For some reason, a period of vibration can stimulate some to eat.

 

[lilbug82]

Try to thaw it out in just hot water. Not with the plastic bag around it. Don't dry it off either, just put the hot pinky in a small container and plop the snake in there too, leave them alone in the dark over night.

I did what you said and got up to a dying snake, she died about an hour after i took her out of the container.