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BAH thrermostt

A relay opens and closes like a door. When it gets the signal to close the circuit is completed and the power flows to the heating elements.. The cheap tstats have a paper thin element and the larger industrial units is about the thickness of a pencil lead...
 
justcage said:
And for the perosn who said it is someone trying to sell you something.. Well to tell you the truth I have tested all the thermostats on the market(even ones from the UK) and we carry one the ones that pass certain tests.. The BAH failed within 3 days of being in a AC cooled closet and was set to 85..
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That was me, and I'm not trying to be argumentative, but......

1- Mine's been working fine for a long time.

2- I have 300 watt aquarium heaters with similar seperate thermostats that cost a similar amount. I've never had one fail in the 7 + years since they started coming out with seperate heater/themostat units.

3- I'm still waiting to hear from someone who had some horrible problem with this unit that "is not" coincidentally selling more expensive ones.

4- Mine is set at 85, and my living room is cold all winter and air conditioned all summer.

I'm sure your more expensive model is also nice. I also think there's more than a little bit of exaggeration going on here.
 
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14219&highlight=alife
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14242&highlight=alife
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=25260&page=1&pp=10

Let me know of you want more:) Now about me selling thermostats.. My markup on the Alife, hagens and zoo-meds would be awsome!! I would make about 20 bucks on each one and am sure they sell like hot cakes. I refuse to make money on something that will harm an animal or another human being!!!!
 
BTW- I don't know how long it took you to comb the internet for three examples, but I find it interesting that you were unable to come up with a single issue with the BAH thermostat being discussed. You might as well try to say I should sell my Toyota Celica because you've heard bad things about Nissan Sentras....
 
ScottyK said:
BTW- I don't know how long it took you to comb the internet for three examples, but I find it interesting that you were unable to come up with a single issue with the BAH thermostat being discussed. You might as well try to say I should sell my Toyota Celica because you've heard bad things about Nissan Sentras....
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Its all the same manufacture, if you had any clue of what your talking about or have used all of the models in this topic you would understand... There is always one in the crowd that knows it all and really does not have a clue of what going on around him..lol.. Tell ya what have fun ...
 
justcage said:
Man your totally ignorant arnt you....
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No, your problem is that I'm not ignorant enough to be taken in by your sales BS. Anyone with a vested interest in the outcome of an "experiment" can set it up to get the results they want.

If you need to load up a thermostat to it's max capacity and lock it in an air conditioned closet to get it to fail, that tells me that you couldn't get it to fail through normal usage. Again, as a seller of a different model you are forfeiting the objectivity you need to do a fair test.

Also, if all of these units were being made through what's known as the "private label" method of sticking different brand names on the same unit, they would be otherwise identical. You can invest 5 minutes looking at the different models and see that they are not the same. I would also expect the same performance problems, but still have yet to hear anything bad about the BAH.

I work in corporate sales by the way. The whole "I could sell these other models for a fortune but choose to be your poor, humble (fill in blank) dealer is right out of a Dale Carnegie seminar :rolleyes:

All I am trying to say is that, if you have a quality product, you can sell it without the scare tactics and phony baloney "research". Think about it. I'm going to be in the market for a proportional unit when I build a larger system this winter. Your tactics are all but guaranteeing that I look elsewhere.
 
ScottyK said:
BTW- I don't know how long it took you to comb the internet for three examples, but I find it interesting that you were unable to come up with a single issue with the BAH thermostat being discussed. You might as well try to say I should sell my Toyota Celica because you've heard bad things about Nissan Sentras....furthermore i know nothin at all!
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ummm. no it is really nothing like that! Bah an the Alife( and several others in the price range) come off the same Assembly line. it is like not getting a a dodge neon because all plymoth neon's fall apart. yes they do come off the Assembly line that is the same. also dodge owns plymoth and Chrysler, i don't know why they did pick a diffrent name like Cameron and firebird,but for some reason they call them all neon's.
 
cornsnakekid92 said:
ummm. no it is really nothing like that! Bah an the Alife( and several others in the price range) come off the same Assembly line. it is like not getting a a dodge neon because all plymoth neon's fall apart. yes they do come off the Assembly line that is the same. also dodge owns plymoth and Chrysler, i don't know why they did pick a diffrent name like Cameron and firebird,but for some reason they call them all neon's.
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Your comparisin is not quite correct. The same company might do the assembly, but the individual companies are providing the designs. You can check the BAH website yourself to verify it. They are not all exactly the same components, or the same designs, but may in fact be put together in the same place. Taking a nugget of fact and distorting the overall picture is dishonest selling. Just like exaggerating the shortcomings of competitors products is utilizing scare tactics....
 
ScottyK said:
No, your problem is that I'm not ignorant enough to be taken in by your sales BS. Anyone with a vested interest in the outcome of an "experiment" can set it up to get the results they want.
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OK, you honestly dont have a clue.. The test was to see what models I was going to offer to the community. Why have a unit that has to be sent back or possibly hurt an animal...

ScottyK said:
If you need to load up a thermostat to it's max capacity and lock it in an air conditioned closet to get it to fail, that tells me that you couldn't get it to fail through normal usage. Again, as a seller of a different model you are forfeiting the objectivity you need to do a fair test.
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Lowering the temps to a below normal ambient temp will make the relay cycle more often... I make the same amount of profit on the "clicker toys" as I do on the Johnsons. Rancos and herpstats and I woudl not have to put them together, just put them in a box.... This is your brain on drugs!!!!


ScottyK said:
I work in corporate sales by the way. The whole "I could sell these other models for a fortune but choose to be your poor, humble (fill in blank) dealer is right out of a Dale Carnegie seminar
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No I actually care about herps and my customers.... Ask around my good man, I WILL NOT SELL CRAP

ScottyK said:
All I am trying to say is that, if you have a quality product, you can sell it without the scare tactics and phony baloney "research". Think about it. I'm going to be in the market for a proportional unit when I build a larger system this winter. Your tactics are all but guaranteeing that I look elsewhere.
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Thank God!!! Ill probably go out of business now that you dont order from me..lol
 
ScottyK said:
Your comparisin is not quite correct. The same company might do the assembly, but the individual companies are providing the designs. You can check the BAH website yourself to verify it. They are not all exactly the same components, or the same designs, but may in fact be put together in the same place. Taking a nugget of fact and distorting the overall picture is dishonest selling. Just like exaggerating the shortcomings of competitors products is utilizing scare tactics....
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LOL I have friends at LLL that sell 2 of the same models, the adeath and the zoo dead.. The BAH-1000 is the exact same themostat on the exact same board with the exact same relays!!! Same model number... Have you taken these thermostats apart? Have you tested all of them? Nope, you just want to agrue a fact that you dont really know about.. I am not trying to argue with you just to let you know.. Please get all 3 "models" of the themrostats, test them.. Ill even send you a Ranco to put in your testing for my cost...
 
justcage said:
I am not trying to argue with you just to let you know.. Please get all 3 "models" of the themrostats, test them.. Ill even send you a Ranco to put in your testing for my cost...
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I'm about done with this argument myself, and thanks, but you don't need to send me any test models.

The point I was (and still am) trying to make is that you are exaggerating to make a sale, and I'll tell you why that is a disservice to this board.

You make it seem like if someone doesn't have $70 to $200 to spend on a certain thermostat, that their house and animals are in some imminent danger. Then they're either going to not buy anything, or use a rheostat which allows the temperature to vary. These are both worse options than getting a BAH, but you try to scare the pants off everyone who mentions them. Where is the outcry from the herp community? The dead snakes? The recall notices? I have you, and a couple of internet posts out of the thousands of units sold.

It's also not some slam dunk for you if some of the models out there are the same. To me, that just means you are also unfairly slamming the ALife and Zoo-Med models too. You deny my charge of using scare tactics, then call them Adeath and Zoo Dead two posts later.

I am also trying to understand the "this is your brain on drugs" unneccesary insult. I understand perfectly that your purpose in using the closest was to get the cycle to click on and off more often. In other words, you were not testing using normal use conditions. Thanks for proving my point for me.

I've been "testing" mine by owning one for over a year, and so far it's proven to be perfectly reliable. My results are very different than yours and I felt it was fair that someone pointed it out.

Please allow me to have a different opinion than you without calling me ignorant in every other sentence.

No hard feelings.......

Scott
 
I bought an Alife thermostat. I had it for a whole MONTH before it would not turn on at all. I'm just very thankfull that it didn't get stuck in ON instead. So I guess, thank you Alife. :rolleyes:
 
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