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Bloodred/Motley Breeding
- Thread starter mike panic
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mike panic
Member
ecreipeoj
Striped Topaz SK SG Free
WOW
Nice match! Can I get on your list if you get more hatchlings than you want keep?
It is interesting to see how different the Bloodred and Motleys are in the Anery A phase. Throw in an Normal Anery A of just about any type and the differences would be dramatic.
Nice match! Can I get on your list if you get more hatchlings than you want keep?
It is interesting to see how different the Bloodred and Motleys are in the Anery A phase. Throw in an Normal Anery A of just about any type and the differences would be dramatic.
mike panic
Member
You have to see this male in person! Its a pink mettalic is the only color I can use to describe him. I brought him to a local show last year and people went nuts over him. Now Imagine that color in only in Motley! The only problem is,(and I know you dont subscribe to this theory) the male Anery Bloodreds looks much better than the females. Speaking of females, the female that came with him is a few days out from laying eggs. I have my fingers crossed. I have a Ghost Bloodred female who is finally starting to make some color/pattern changes as she nears yearling status. She wasnt doing anything for a while but all of a sudden, the last few sheds she is starting to fade out, and "BLEED", LOL( I dont want to start another 18 page thread). Anyway Joe, you are always first up whenever you want anything from me. Thanks.
Simon
Corn Manic
Mike,
Nice!!!
Hey I too just bred my anery bloodred to my anery motley.
I too am hoping to see some of those anery bloodred motley.
Also as a back up I bred my pewter to my anery motley too.
Just to get some normal het anery charcoal bloodred. Then seeing how those would look like...
I don't know if my boy has done his job though...we'll see in a month or so once the female starts laying and then the babies start hatching...
I hate this time of year...with the wait!!
But anyway you have a wonderful pair of anerys!
Nice!!!
Hey I too just bred my anery bloodred to my anery motley.
I too am hoping to see some of those anery bloodred motley.
Also as a back up I bred my pewter to my anery motley too.
Just to get some normal het anery charcoal bloodred. Then seeing how those would look like...
I don't know if my boy has done his job though...we'll see in a month or so once the female starts laying and then the babies start hatching...
I hate this time of year...with the wait!!
But anyway you have a wonderful pair of anerys!
ecreipeoj
Striped Topaz SK SG Free
Thanks Mike,
I hope you get a huge clutch of fertile eggs. I have been wondering how anybody would pick out a Bloodred Motley from a clutch of hets, just like it would be hard to pick out a Striped Bloodred, because so much is riding on the belly pattern, but that is part of the fun of this great hobby, discovering the unknowns.
Hopefully, there will be some differences in a double homo that is evident, without the need for test breeding, or there wouldn’t seem to be much point. The traditional Bloodred Color in Striped or Motley phase would have an awesome effect! It would be cool if somehow the two patterns (Motley and Bloodred) mixed in someway, instead of one masking the other. It is early, but the striped pattern seems to mask the bloodred pattern, from what I have seen in your Striped Bloodred. You never really know with the bloodred trait, because it may have more influence when they get older.
I have to admit that a lot of male corns have more pink than most females, so I wouldn’t say that I don’t subscribe to that theory exactly. Most of my high pink corns are males. It is just those females that come along ever once in a while that rival the males. From what I have heard, the male Anery A Bloods are much more pink than the females so far. The evidence is mounting year after year, that suggest most males are pinker than most females. This pink coloration we are finding hidden underneath all of the other layers will be a very exciting mystery to unravel.
Pink metallic or metallic pink sounds hot!
I hope you get a huge clutch of fertile eggs. I have been wondering how anybody would pick out a Bloodred Motley from a clutch of hets, just like it would be hard to pick out a Striped Bloodred, because so much is riding on the belly pattern, but that is part of the fun of this great hobby, discovering the unknowns.
Hopefully, there will be some differences in a double homo that is evident, without the need for test breeding, or there wouldn’t seem to be much point. The traditional Bloodred Color in Striped or Motley phase would have an awesome effect! It would be cool if somehow the two patterns (Motley and Bloodred) mixed in someway, instead of one masking the other. It is early, but the striped pattern seems to mask the bloodred pattern, from what I have seen in your Striped Bloodred. You never really know with the bloodred trait, because it may have more influence when they get older.
I have to admit that a lot of male corns have more pink than most females, so I wouldn’t say that I don’t subscribe to that theory exactly. Most of my high pink corns are males. It is just those females that come along ever once in a while that rival the males. From what I have heard, the male Anery A Bloods are much more pink than the females so far. The evidence is mounting year after year, that suggest most males are pinker than most females. This pink coloration we are finding hidden underneath all of the other layers will be a very exciting mystery to unravel.
Pink metallic or metallic pink sounds hot!
Marcel Poots
Young, handsom member
ecreipeoj said:
I have been wondeirng that too. I have bred an Amel Motley to a Bloodred het Amel. I will keep all Amels from this clucth and a few normals. That way I think I have a good chance of producing a Bloodred/Motley or an Amel Bloodred Motley in 3 years. I hope that the Amel Motleys have typical Motley bellies and that Bloodred Motley will have typical Bloodred (with more abberant belly pattern and more creeping red) pattern. It will be fun in a few years when every one starts producing Bloodred Motley. About two years ago Don S. showed pics on KS of Motleys that come from hets. They where amazingly red and had the typical Bloodred belly. But since slight checkering was present he refuses to call them Bloodred Motley. I think they are the most beautifull corns I have ever seen. Don if you are reading this, could you post updated pictures of the snakes I am talking about?
ecreipeoj
Striped Topaz SK SG Free
It would seem like when we combine two recessive pattern morphs together that it is more likely that one will mask the other rather than a blending of the two. It is not like pealing one pigment off after another, like with recessive color traits and pigment reduction traits.
I hope that the Bloodred trait is more than just the belly pattern, but seems to be the only thing that people will definitely agree on, when they are out crossed into other morphs. That would be very disappointing. It seems like it would be impossible to recognize a double homo for the Bloodred belly and Motley/Striped bellies. Each one can resemble the others.
I personally think that the Bloodred trait does in someway alter the pattern too, much like the striped and motley genes do. I also wonder if the old style Bloods didn‘t have more genes involved than just one. A pattern trait and color trait for example, like Hypererythristic. Heck we could go with three genes involved, a belly gene, pattern gene and color gene, but most likely it is just one and I think it is a combo belly/pattern gene. A hypererythristic gene would be an interesting gene to work with. Do we already have one in the Bloodreds?, and perhaps the Volcano Corns.
Mixing up two pattern traits might be like mixing up two anery genes. A double homo may be mask by one of the genes and there will not be a significant difference in appearance, but then again, we will never know until we try. If we can get the old style Bloodred color, with possible improvements, on a Motley or Striped pattern, that would be something very different and appealing. I also believe that the old style Bloodred Color will express itself differently when homo for Anery A as in this case.
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I hope that the Bloodred trait is more than just the belly pattern, but seems to be the only thing that people will definitely agree on, when they are out crossed into other morphs. That would be very disappointing. It seems like it would be impossible to recognize a double homo for the Bloodred belly and Motley/Striped bellies. Each one can resemble the others.
I personally think that the Bloodred trait does in someway alter the pattern too, much like the striped and motley genes do. I also wonder if the old style Bloods didn‘t have more genes involved than just one. A pattern trait and color trait for example, like Hypererythristic. Heck we could go with three genes involved, a belly gene, pattern gene and color gene, but most likely it is just one and I think it is a combo belly/pattern gene. A hypererythristic gene would be an interesting gene to work with. Do we already have one in the Bloodreds?, and perhaps the Volcano Corns.
Mixing up two pattern traits might be like mixing up two anery genes. A double homo may be mask by one of the genes and there will not be a significant difference in appearance, but then again, we will never know until we try. If we can get the old style Bloodred color, with possible improvements, on a Motley or Striped pattern, that would be something very different and appealing. I also believe that the old style Bloodred Color will express itself differently when homo for Anery A as in this case.
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