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CAMERA HELP PLEASE

brtrude

New member
Hi guys.
iv just got a new camera for christmas, a Fuji FinePix S8000fd.
I know there are some people on here who like photography and i thought if anyone is familiar with this camera you could give me some advise on how to get consistant good pictures.

A lot of the pictures come out blurry unless i put it on a fast shutter speed, but then it seems you need to use the flash as well and that can affect the image aswell.

Im still learning how to use the camera but am having a hard time with it at the min.

any advise???

thanks, brett.
 
I'm afraid you can't deny the laws of physics - if you have a slow shutter speed, the image will blur. If you have a fast one, you'll need to compensate. You're currently doing that with the flash.

If, however, you put it on manual mode (More work, but gives you more control), you can get more light in without the flash. There are two ways of doing so - Widening the aperture, or raising the ISO. But this is only if you want to go into manual mode.

If you don't, I'd suggest you use Shutter priority mode (S orTv probably on the mode dial). That way you can set the shutter speed, and the camera will set the rest. There should be an option to turn the flash off somewhere.

If you want more help then say so and I'll explain further - just giving you a couple of quick-fixes.
 
thats great thanks a lot mate! il go and try that in a bit and see if i can get some beter results.

im going to sound stupid here but like i said, im not a photography person lol......what is the aperture all together? it doesnt explain it in the manual and im not wuite sure what it is exactly. :)

cheers
 
ok, i wanna get a good grasp on this so let me run another couple of questions by you. iv just been on manual now and there a few things on the screen what i want to ask you about.

i can set the shutter speed, which is 2 up and down arrows on the left to allow me to change it.
then next the that there is something else that i can alter, it ranges from F8 to F2.8.........(is that the aperture??) what will that change if i alter it.??

oh ye, this is on manual mode.

thanks.
 
Yes the F/ number (So f/28. for example) is the aperture setting. It's how wide the opening is on the lens - and paradoxically, the smaller the number, the wider the opening (And the more light will be let into the camera).

Lets use an analogy here - say the camera is a tap on a bath. The shutter speed is how long you leave the tap on for - obviously, the longer it's left on for, the more water makes it into the bath. In this, how far you open the tap is the aperture - obviously opening the tap more allows more water through, so more water makes it in again. The game of photography in manual mode is balancing these two - so, if the shutter speed gets faster (Less time for the light to hit the sensor), you need to let more light in by widening the aperture.

So, if you want a faster shutter speed (1/30 of a second or higher is recommended to avoid camera shake - to freeze the movement of your subject, ideally you're looking for at least 1/50 of a second or faster), you have to open the lens up (Adjust so that the F number is SMALLER). It's complicated, but you get used to it quickly.

Aperture however also controls depth of field (This really complicates things, so only read on if you feel up to it) - how much of your photo is in focus. If you have a wide aperture (F/2.8, for example), your subject will be sharp, but basically everything else will be a blur - this is how you get those macro photographs with the beautifully smooth backgrounds (Called bokeh, incidentally). But if you have a high F/number (Small opening in the lens), then you get a greater depth of field, so lots of your photo will be in focus. This is great for landscapes, when you have a lot of light avaliable. This is why manual mode gives you so much creative control - you can change basically whatever you want about your photo.



ISO is a whole different ball game - It's basically for use only if even at the widest aperture you have, your shutter speed is too slow. Simply put, it makes the image sensor more sensitive to light (Each setting doubles the sensitivity of the sensor). So an ISO of 200 is twice as sensitive as an ISO of 100. This means that you need the shutter open for less time for the sensor to register an image. Sounds great doesn't it? But unfortunately there's a downside, particularly on compact cameras like yours. When the sensitivity is increased, the sensor gets interference from electrical signals produced inside it, resulting in 'Noise'. This is that unsightly coloured graininess you might find in some of your photos. It is the bane of photographers everywhere - although in modern DSLR's it very acceptable, in compacts with small sensors such as your Fuji, noise can be a massive problem at higher ISO's. So it's best to stick to the lowest number you can get ISO to. However it's better to get a noisy picture than no picture - so if you have no choice, boost it up and see what results you get.
 
Whoa, didn't mean that to turn into quite such an essay. I tend to get a bit carried away. Sorry for that. :grin01:
 
no way pal dont worry about it being an essay, that was awsome!!!!! i think i understand it a bit more now. im going to have a play with it on manual mode later on i think or 2morrow. that info will really help me get to grips with the camera.
thanks a lot............one more thing......

should i avoid using the flash on manual?



thanks you so much, your help is greatly appreciated!
:spinner:
 
The flash on compact cameras tends to give the look known as 'Deer in the headlamps' - AKA the foreground or subject is bright and looks artificial, and the background is too dark. So as a general rule it's best not to use it - But again, it's better to have a poor picture than no picture at all. There are ways to fix this issue (Well, make it less noticeable anyway), and I'll explain if you do want to use flash - but if not, I won't complicate matters.
 
ok, well i think il have a play around with it on manual like you said to do and il see how i do. Il get back to you lettin ya know how i got on.
thanks again
 
hellooo.
iv just had a play with it on manual mode and it seems that the pictures come out ok on a lowershutter speed but they are more blurry because the shutter speed is lower, as soon as i tey and increase the shutter speed the pictures jsut turn out to dark, you cant see anything. This starts when the shutter speed is on around 20 and just gets worse as i put it higher.
(im not sure if thats one 20th of a second or what, but it says 20 anyway)

the aperture doesnt seem to make much of a sifference.

any advise??
 
Heres a thread iv just done with some pictures of my snake using the camera.

http://cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61467

i took all these pics on manualmode, with the camera on a high (ish) shutter speed and a larger aperture. I found it worked better with a larger eperture compared to a lower one.

i had to use flash on these pics because on a lower shutter speed with no flash the snake came out too blurry because he was moving.
anyway.....
what do ya think...
any ideas on how to improve??
 
Simplest and most effective way to solve the problem - Move somewhere with more light. ;) But yes 20 will mean 1/20 of a second.

The flash shots there don't look too bad - Camera's doing a nice job of adjusting the power. But on flash shots, basically shutter speed is irrelevant. Because the flash is a short, very intense burst of light, you can have the shutter speed at anything (Within reason), and the same amount of light will get to the sensor. Widening the aperture will, as normal, make the picture brighter though. But unless you go down to say 1/15 of a second, the flash will effectively freeze motion. Lower than that you'll get some blurring around the edges of the subject as it moves.

So if you don't find the effect of the flash that bad, then you can leave it and keep on as you are. If you don't like how concentrated the effect of the flash is, you can try a trick called diffusion - basically, find any thin white translucent material you can (Baking paper is a popular one), and attach it over your flash. Looks primitive - but it will diffuse the light, and get you a softer flash effect. I don't know how your camera will react to that - only way to really tell with these things is play around, have an experiment.

But simplest, cheapest, and most effective solution? Go outside. :)
 
Paradox,
The water through the tap is a great analogy!

Taking pics and trial and error are what got me through it all. Eventually I hit that point where I knew how much of this of that effected my end pictures.

Granted. My Point and Shoot Camera was still the best camera for taking Macro pics. Not that my new cam does a bad job at all, just that the P&S took the least amount of work, I just had to buy a decent set of macro lenses.

Brtrude,

I think you should feel fortunate. Even on my photo forums I've never seen it explained so well!
 
Thanks. :) It's something I picked up from a camera forum funnily enough. I thought it was a good way of putting it as well, so I made a point of remembering it.

It was trial and error for me as well - Bit of advice on where to start from online, then go out and fill a 2 gigabyte memory card trying things out. :grin01:
 
ye, thanks everyone for all the help.im guna keep going with it and learn the camera better and hopefully next time my pics will be a lot better.

cheers everyone.
 
hello again.
So theres something else i was wondering if you could help me with. The zoom.....it has a very large x18 optical zoom on the camera. Sometimes, when i want to zoom into something small, like my snakes head, It zooms in and keeps its clarity really well, but then sometimes il try and zoom in and it will be REALLY blurry and just wont focus.
any tips??
 
The camera has a minimum focusing distance that changes as you zoom in - I don't know exactly what it would be for your camera. But basically at a certain level of zoom, you can only focus on something that's beyond a certain distance from the camera. That's the laws of physics getting in the way again - The lens on that camera probably can't focus very close at telephoto. I know my Panasonic can't. So, th esolution is simple - Zoom out a bit/move away from the subject. ;)
 
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