Christmas projects

[diamondlil]

Just from the descriptions and the first photo I saw, I fell in love with the christmas hypo gene a few years back, and jumped at the chance to get a hatchling female I called Lola. Fast forwards a few years to the first season of breeding her, and it became evident that she was a he and I paired him up with my granite, Pearl to get a keeper trio of het anery/blood/christmas

 

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The results of tha pairing are Bronco Billy

 

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Faith Henley

 

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And Silk Miller.

 

[diamondlil]

I'll be pairing the siblings together next season to shoot for christmas bloods, although with them also being het anery I should get christmas ghosts and christmas hypos, as well as aneries and bloods. The addition of anery I could have done without for the project!

 

[dionythicus]

I agree with leaving out the anery. My pair of Christmas anery males are nice ghosts, but they aren't all that different from regular ghosts. They came from Joe Pierce, though, and I'm now having doubts about his reputation and if these are in fact Christmas hypo at all. I may produce my own unrelated Christmas ghosts to compare. Maybe you'll get something special in your Christmas ghosts. I'm looking forward to it!

 

[diamondlil]

This year I paired Lola with my Love okeetee Kate, and I rather like the results.....I'll be keeping a female to put back to Lola in the future

 

[diamondlil]

Next year I'll pair Lola with my old school blood, Polly, to get het christmas/ diffused hopefully without any other genes in the mix.

 

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And I've finally chosen this year's het christmas keeper gal! After missexing the blood, I've popped and popped this poor girlie until I'm as certain as I can be there are no hidden hemis. So this is Fanny Mae, het christmas.

 

[dionythicus]

She's a beaut!! I tried my Christmas boy with my Love Okeetee two years ago, but got slugs. Maybe I should try my Abbott's male with my Christmas girl. Those are some sweet lookin' "normals".

 

[diamondlil]

She's a beaut!! I tried my Christmas boy with my Love Okeetee two years ago, but got slugs. Maybe I should try my Abbott's male with my Christmas girl. Those are some sweet lookin' "normals".

Thanks! Have you any recent pictures of your christmas corns and hets? I think we must be about the only 2 people that keep on raving about christmas hypo on here!

 

[Irish Eyes (Mrs.Z)]

Could someone please tell me what you mean when you talk about the "Christmas" gene? I've seen the term used, but don't understand what makes it special, what it does, and why it's called "Christmas".

 

[diamondlil]

This is one of the most comprehensive answers I got when I was first enquiring about christmas hypos, it's from Joe Pierce;
Like Serp said, The Christmas Hypos have been tested with the other four established hypos and normals were produced in all cases. We are basing some of the test on single breedings however. The originator of the Christmas Hypos, (Bill Brant), has not been involved in the testing and I have obtained very little information from him. They are involved in wholesale breeding, and I have seen more of the Christmas Hypos pop up in pet stores than with breeders.

Based upon some of the info that Brant did proved and some of the test breedings, we do know that Anery A, Amel and Hypo have been bred into the line but there is no trace on these genes as with any of the Space Garbage that is wholesaled off. The greenish color that many people talk about is in the normally black areas of the Corns. Instead of a purplish or grayish color, they have a gray/greenish color.

I only have 2.1 Hets for Christmas, Anery and poss Lava, but even the Hets have a “Cherry” red color to them that is different than most reds we see in Normals. They even have a little greenish color in their black, but it is very dark. The greenish color in the hypos is not a bright green or pine green color, but nearly black. The Christmas Hypos have the same opportunity to be mixed with the other known morphs to create new never before seen morphs, but very little work has been done with them, and it is unknown if these new morphs such as a ghost type mutant homo for Christmas and Anery will be significantly different from other hypo mutants to warrant much interest. I suspect that they may produce unique morphs like many of the other hypos, but time will tell.

Obviously the Lavender gene has been worked into them too and Stephen will have a great opportunity to produce a new morphs that we haven’t seen before. I suspect that a Lavender Christmas or Christmas Lavender Corn with be very attractive.

Christmas Corns did come from a locality on an Island, but it is off the coast of South Carolina not Florida, and it is not called Christmas Island. They came from Corns that were collected on Daufuskie Island around 1990. There are a couple of breeders that do have locality Corns from that local.

Here is the only photo that I have of a Christmas Corn. It is very similar to Stephens.
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[diamondlil]

And here's a link to the thread that quote came from;
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30501&highlight=christmas

 

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Bronco Billy freshly shed

 

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This year's het christmas keeper, Fanny Mae, after her second shed

 

[dionythicus]

I found last year that it is compatible with Hypo A, but appears to be dominant in visual appearance. More test breedings are needed. I have a pair of male Christmas aneries who don't look too much different from regular ghosts. They need an update post. I think that is who shall sire a clutch next year with Holly, my Christmas girl. I know she's het amel, maybe I'll get lucky and she'll prove het anery.

 

[Irish Eyes (Mrs.Z)]

Thanks for the explanation, Janine.

Your own animals are beautiful! I still don't see green on any of their borders (I'm guessing the hets wouldn't show them, anyway?). I wonder if it's something that's more noticeable in person? Those borders all look just plain black to me . Either way, I love their intense coloring. Gorgeous!

 

[diamondlil]

Thanks for the explanation, Janine.

Your own animals are beautiful! I still don't see green on any of their borders (I'm guessing the hets wouldn't show them, anyway?). I wonder if it's something that's more noticeable in person? Those borders all look just plain black to me . Either way, I love their intense coloring. Gorgeous!

Ill try to get decent pictures of Lola's belly checks and borders, that's where you can see the bronzing green effect, but it's like the sheen on a crow's wing and depends on the light! On 'The Source', there's a good thread about the difference in the pigment cells of Christmas hypos under the microscope.

 

[diamondlil]

Fanny Mae with a nice full tummy!