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Corn snake cage size?
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SilverTongue
Friend Of Gaia
Well I wouldnt leave it in there after it can not streach out. It should have the space to lay flat out if that is any idea
bmm
New member
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I would NOT "go ahead and buy" the 55 gallon size for a '02 hatchling cornsnake from a pet store.
Larger tanks for baby snakes can sometimes cause stress. It's less stressful for the snake if it doesn't have to "search" out water and hides. And it is more likely to keep eating if kept in a smaller tank than a 55! thats too huge for a baby IMHO. Thats why for hard to start feeders you put them in a bag overnight, because its small and confined....
What you can do is purchase your 55 gallon, and a shoe/sweater box size rubbermaid tub.....let him live in the rubbermaid until he is eating and has a schedual, and a little more size to him. Then I would move him to the 55 gallon.
This is my personal opinion. As I have had nothing but bad luck putting hatchling corns/or any snakes for that matter into large tanks.
bmm
I would NOT "go ahead and buy" the 55 gallon size for a '02 hatchling cornsnake from a pet store.
Larger tanks for baby snakes can sometimes cause stress. It's less stressful for the snake if it doesn't have to "search" out water and hides. And it is more likely to keep eating if kept in a smaller tank than a 55! thats too huge for a baby IMHO. Thats why for hard to start feeders you put them in a bag overnight, because its small and confined....
What you can do is purchase your 55 gallon, and a shoe/sweater box size rubbermaid tub.....let him live in the rubbermaid until he is eating and has a schedual, and a little more size to him. Then I would move him to the 55 gallon.
This is my personal opinion. As I have had nothing but bad luck putting hatchling corns/or any snakes for that matter into large tanks.
bmm
Just off my personal experiences. Maybe I should clarify myself. I'm not going to buy a new tank. I use neos and will be freeing one up as soon as I clear out the snake that's currently in it. I was wondering how long an '02 hatchling could be kept in the small cage to see if I had to sell the snake fast at a clearence price or if I could wait a few months and get fair market price. Sorry for any confusion.
I agree with bmm. Large tanks/small snakes do not work unless you have a ton of hides and that may not be enough to make the snake feel secure, especially during the settling in period. If worse comes to worst, I can always use one of the rubbermaids lying around. I would just rather use the cage.
I agree with bmm. Large tanks/small snakes do not work unless you have a ton of hides and that may not be enough to make the snake feel secure, especially during the settling in period. If worse comes to worst, I can always use one of the rubbermaids lying around. I would just rather use the cage.
Simon
Corn Manic
A very basic rule of tumb...
the width plus the length of the tank should be AT LEAST as long as the snake itself. That is the basic rule for tank size and snake length.
As for a 55 gallon tank for a hatchling, it's not that good of an idea. Too big of a tank could stress the little fellow out.....start out with something like a 10 gallon tank and then slowly increase it to around 20 gallon. Around a 20 gallon long tank should be good enough for an adult corn snake to live in it. Of course the bigger the better for adults. They like it like that.
Good Luck and Happy Herping!
the width plus the length of the tank should be AT LEAST as long as the snake itself. That is the basic rule for tank size and snake length.
As for a 55 gallon tank for a hatchling, it's not that good of an idea. Too big of a tank could stress the little fellow out.....start out with something like a 10 gallon tank and then slowly increase it to around 20 gallon. Around a 20 gallon long tank should be good enough for an adult corn snake to live in it. Of course the bigger the better for adults. They like it like that.
Good Luck and Happy Herping!
Width plus length translates to a 2 foot snake. That works fine with the boids I keep but they are not the most active things in the world plus with the 2 lungs, they do not need as much room as colubrids with only 1 functioning lung.
The only colubrid I have experience with is a rough green. The rest are boids, vipers, and elapids. Kinda "out of my element" when it comes to corns so I want to double check the cage size here first. Housing requirements can vary significantly between species, as well as growth rates.
The only colubrid I have experience with is a rough green. The rest are boids, vipers, and elapids. Kinda "out of my element" when it comes to corns so I want to double check the cage size here first. Housing requirements can vary significantly between species, as well as growth rates.
well i'm just saying from personal experience with my 2 corns they started out in a 55 gallon tank
its perfect it looks like a real wooded area
i use repti bark
i have a big tree
a grapevine sandblasted log
plastic plants
repti hammock
2 coconut hiding places
repti drip system (looks like a stump)
repti therm heating pad under the tank
forest hollow log
habba hut
flexi branch
reptile temperature controller electric
humidity temperature indicator
2 high range reptile thermometer
lizard lagoon
a tree stump
and a paper towel cardboard roll thing
and my snakes love everything in there and they have never been stressed out , they know when i enter my room that its me, they never go hide, their not shy when i pick them up, they curl up on the repti hammock with the plastic plants above them, they curl on the tree and grapevine with the plastic plants covering them, they have different places they lay, but their favorite is both of them curled up together in the repti drip system (looks like a stump), they are absolutely adorable and they are both gorgeous, and they eat 1 hopper every 10 days
its perfect it looks like a real wooded area
i use repti bark
i have a big tree
a grapevine sandblasted log
plastic plants
repti hammock
2 coconut hiding places
repti drip system (looks like a stump)
repti therm heating pad under the tank
forest hollow log
habba hut
flexi branch
reptile temperature controller electric
humidity temperature indicator
2 high range reptile thermometer
lizard lagoon
a tree stump
and a paper towel cardboard roll thing
and my snakes love everything in there and they have never been stressed out , they know when i enter my room that its me, they never go hide, their not shy when i pick them up, they curl up on the repti hammock with the plastic plants above them, they curl on the tree and grapevine with the plastic plants covering them, they have different places they lay, but their favorite is both of them curled up together in the repti drip system (looks like a stump), they are absolutely adorable and they are both gorgeous, and they eat 1 hopper every 10 days
CornsnakeKeeper
Addicted Member
Snakegirl, FYI, corns only need a 20 long as adults for each corn. I mean, you seem as if 55 gallon is the bare minimum for an adult corn.
to BMM
my common corn is 1 year and 14 days old and my anerythristic is going to turn 1 year on aug. 15th.
they have been in the same tank since september 7th 2001
they no problem with each other, 95% of the time they are snuggled together. they have no problem eating i take them put them in 2 different plastic carrying cases and they eat fine. i wriggle the hopper in front of which ever one and they nab it within 2 seconds and wrap around and then eat it.when they shed they shed perfect in one long piece. so refusing to eat and getting stressed is not a problem here. i guess i take good care of my snakes.and no i would never put two ADULT snakes that have never seen or been in the same tank together.
and to CornSnakeKeeper
if you actually care about your snake (or any other pet) you would get the best for that animal. now for the snakes, you would not get a small tank that it can't even move around in.
if you know anything about corns they love to move around, especially at night. as a matter of fact i am building a second tank to put on the bottom of the tank i already have so they have an extra climbing space
now i see if you can not afford something like that, or the extra's that go inside the tank, then i see why you would get a small tank. but if you can't afford the necessities for your pet i guess you shouldn't have your pet.
my common corn is 1 year and 14 days old and my anerythristic is going to turn 1 year on aug. 15th.
they have been in the same tank since september 7th 2001
they no problem with each other, 95% of the time they are snuggled together. they have no problem eating i take them put them in 2 different plastic carrying cases and they eat fine. i wriggle the hopper in front of which ever one and they nab it within 2 seconds and wrap around and then eat it.when they shed they shed perfect in one long piece. so refusing to eat and getting stressed is not a problem here. i guess i take good care of my snakes.and no i would never put two ADULT snakes that have never seen or been in the same tank together.
and to CornSnakeKeeper
if you actually care about your snake (or any other pet) you would get the best for that animal. now for the snakes, you would not get a small tank that it can't even move around in.
if you know anything about corns they love to move around, especially at night. as a matter of fact i am building a second tank to put on the bottom of the tank i already have so they have an extra climbing space
now i see if you can not afford something like that, or the extra's that go inside the tank, then i see why you would get a small tank. but if you can't afford the necessities for your pet i guess you shouldn't have your pet.
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SilverTongue
Friend Of Gaia
Same here with my baby corns. I am constantly finding them snuggled together. I think if you have them in a group not too long after being hatched they still have that group family mentality. If they are use to many snake then that is fine, but if you get one that has been alone for a long time then you will have problems. Maybe it is just me and I dont know what I am talking about. Ahh well it works for me.
snkegrl47 said:
It's true that corns like to move around, but the fact is that one can be kept in a 20 gallon long tank for its whole life. If you have the space and the money to get them something bigger, that's great. But keeping a corn in an 55 gal is not a must. If you ever imply to someone that they don't know anything about corns or they don't really care about their animals because they house them in Rubbermaid tubs or 20L's, well, you might run into some trouble with that person.
I have my yearling in a 20L and he is fine. I take him out almost every day and let him slither around and exercise. No one can say that he doesn't get enough exercise because he is housed in a 20L. And you can bet I know my corn snake info and I care about my pets.
Breeders, especially the ones who breed on a larger scale, certainly don't have the space to house each corn in a 55 gallon. And they don't.
Yes, taking good care of your corns plays a role in the fact that they are healthy, but because a person's corn doesn't shed in one piece or it doesn't eat well, it doesn't mean that they DON'T take or try to take good care of their snake. It's a fact that some corns don't do as well housed with other snakes and if it becomes stressed and regurges or something, it's not automatically the keeper's fault. The snake could just get stressed easily. It's like calling someone a bad parent because their child is susceptile to catching cold. It depends on the individual snake.
It's nice to express your opinions but keep in mind that not everyone shares the same POV.
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Missymonkey
New member
sounds neat
snkgrl47, do you have a pic of your setup I am curious to see it. I want to get a 55 someday also and want it to be naturalistic, so at first you don't really notice the snakes. Do they actualy use the repti hammock, I thought that was more of a lizard thing?
snkgrl47, do you have a pic of your setup I am curious to see it. I want to get a 55 someday also and want it to be naturalistic, so at first you don't really notice the snakes. Do they actualy use the repti hammock, I thought that was more of a lizard thing?