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deformed runts and non feeders

Bmm, my post was not directed at you. It was directed at a few other people who were implying that SilentNeko was doing something wrong in planning to re-sell the snakes after he got them feeding, or telling him that he would be wrong to raise the price even a little on the snakes at that point. After all, he will have spent money on their food and housing, not to mention his own time and energy. In my opinion, raising the price on the two he plans to sell, from their original $1.67 each, is perfectly reasonable.
 
in my experience with snakes when you breed an albino with a regular most come out as just hets, but some will come out as albino also. I had bred a corn snake with and albino corn before, I got 6 hets and 2 albino's out of it. even if I just get hets thats still a start and I could easily sell those as well for $65-85, we will see.
 
yes

You will only get some albinos if both animals are het for albino.

If you have one albino snake and one non albino snake who is not even a het, you will *not* get any albinos. you will get 50% of the clutch being albino hets, and the rest being normal.

Your cornssnake was het for albino. thats how you got albinos.


In any case I read up and figured things out myself. Thanks anyways. Good luck getting a albino het for your albino garter!

bmm
 
SilentNeko said:
in my experience with snakes when you breed an albino with a regular most come out as just hets, but some will come out as albino also. I had bred a corn snake with and albino corn before, I got 6 hets and 2 albino's out of it.
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This means that the "normal" corn was a het for albino...if other garter isn't het, you won't get any albinos.

If you have one albino snake and one non albino snake who is not even a het, you will *not* get any albinos. you will get 50% of the clutch being albino hets, and the rest being normal.
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little mistake ;) . An albino x normal will produce all 100% hets.
 
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perhaps you guys are right, I caught the corn so it could have been het, anyway if I breed and get 100% hets then re breed with an albino I should get a few right? either way the garters are just a hobby, the corns were done out of pitty. and who knows what I'll end up with in the future.
 
For what my opinion is worth, I'm glad you decided to try to save those snakes. I hope that snow decides it wants to eat and live soon.
 
imho, i think that corns or other snakes with deformaties should not be kept atall and should
be destroyed at birth,
cos even when sold as pets,somewhere down the line they might be bred from ,then produce more with deformaties,
how many people have bought snakes,or other animals not to breed from,decide to sell on/give away or breed at a latter date
maybe not u ,but the person who gets it next,
 
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thats kinda harsh chief. its just a back kink which means it could have been from staying in the egg to long or improper nutrition or something. besides if we killed all abnormalities we would never get albino's right. I believe this snake is worth saving and would most likely breed just fine. if you were born with scoliosis would we or should we have killed you?
 
a)when i said adnomaties i mean like bad kinks,where the snake is draging its self around unable to move the way it should
b),albinos totaly different thing,
c) and peple with adnomaties again is different isn't it,
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d) i have at the moment a anery that has a few kinks in its spine and is a lively snake ,that not eating yet ,which was given to me,
but if i get it to feed,then i will keep it myself,not to be sold-given or breed from and by keeping it myself no one else will either
,because of my own beliefs if i had hatched it ,it would have gone to snake heaven, and before you reply NO i dont enjoy doing it



.if you were born with scoliosis would we or should we have killed you?
sorry what does scoliosis mean,
 
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a. if the kink was that bad the snake would most likely die anyway so I agree to put that one out of its missery
b. albinos are not different, its a deformity just like anything else
c. these are all living creatures, I could sooner kill another man then a defensless creature
d. good for you

I may have misspelled scoliosis, but just incase your really don't know its a disorder that effects I think 1 out of every 25 people, its a bending of the spine which can get worse with age, most people who say they have a bad back have this in a minor way.
 
SilentNeko said:
I unfortunately the little snow with the bad back still hasn't eaten, I'll try again with just a head. I will be keeping the snow if it survives, but I have no need for the other 2 so I'll sell them just to get rid of them.
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Pronunciation: "skO-lE-'O-s&s
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural sco·li·o·ses
Etymology: New Latin, from Greek skoliOsis crookedness of a bodily part, from skolios
Date: circa 1706
: a lateral curvature of the spine
 
well thank you both ,now i know what it means.
the little anery that i got does drag it self around,like itcarryin extra wieght,

.but he is called speedy cos he is very fast at dragging his a..se
around,i dont think he/she is in pain,
 
well good for you, isn't this a good webb site :D :D :D
.
.put A POST ON the CORNS FOR SALE ?
 
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I have a suggestion...

I have a few babies that have one to three small kinks in their backs. I got them from someone else. Anyway, I am placing them all in educational facilities. I have done quite a bit of checking into where to place them, and have found some wonderful new homes for them...including a "Reptiles in Education" program, a children's museum/discovery house, and a high school biology class.

This is my suggestion to any of you that have snakes with minor kinks in their backs...find a good educational facility for them. If the deformities are severe, then euthanasia is the best thing for them.
 
my boa has a kink in her tail, I knew this when I bought her, I thought she was the best out of the whole bunch that I looked at. I think it gives her character:D It doesn't slow her down a bit and does not affect her eating. It seems to be getting less noticeable as she grows and I would not trade her in for anything!! :p
 
well my snow is only half the size of the other 2 and they are all 3 weeks old, so hopefully I'll save her, the classroom deal sounds cool, my sister works at a school so maybe when she gets bigger I'll go that route. I'm going to try feeding again, we will see how it goes.
 
Good luck!

I admire that you are trying to save her! I hope all goes well for you. I have been force feeding my non-feeders. It was a last ditch effort to save them. I am now spacing their "feeding" out a little farther since I have gotten a little weight on them. I figure that they are out of immediate danger so maybe I can stimulate them into eating by withholding food for a while...again. They are all around two months old, and none of them ate for the first month of their lives. They continue to turn up their cute little noses at food, but I plan to keep plugging away at them until they decide to eat by themselves.
 
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