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Did I hurt her? And some other stuff.

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snakes4ever

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Ok, I am not that new at breeding my corns(Thanks to all the people here that have helped me. But This is the first time I have ever started opening her container, because I saw the egs were in it and to find out that she still had one that was not fulley out of her.

I started to move the container out of the cage, with her in it. I then opend it and noticed that she had moved all the moss to one side and layed them on the plastic bottum. I think some of them may have moved. So I was trying to get her out and she was makeing her body flat on the ground to ware I could not get my fingers under her. She flinched each time my fingers touched her. And then after about the 4th try. I saw that there was a egg half way out of her. This is her third batch. And I only count 19 eggs.

I did not take the eggs out. I put the lid back on and put her and her container back in the cage and took the guy out. After holding the guy for about 30 minutes I whent to put him back and noticed that she was not in the container anymore. She had moved out of it and under a towl I have always given my snakes as a shelter.

Today was a hard day at work so I am a bit tired. So just in case I did not make sence above. This is the problem...

#1 Some of the eggs roled when I picked up the container.
(I was told to move the eggs to the incabater the same way thay are layed in the nest box)

#2 I touched the girl and she flinched and I moved her body a bit, trying to pick her up (never did though), And then noticed that a egg was still comeing out of her.

Did I hurt her? Or is all that going to make her egg bound? Did she suck it back up in her? And the eggs that rolled... Are they done for? Or do they still have a chance?

I have never delt with her while she was laying the eggs.... In the past it was like the next day or 2 days after she had layed them, that I then noticed them and took them out.

What was the temp I should incabate the eggs under? I forgot. I had it set up for the past week at 75 - 80*.

1 more thing... My mom is a bit over emotional when it comes to the girl snake... She and I fight about weather we need to take the dad snake out after she layes the eggs. She said that she needs to rest and I told her that I have seen breeders just leave them together and they just act out nature and leave eachother alone. Who is right? I need to know... I dont think she is thick enough for a second clutch right away. It may kill her.
 
snakes4ever said:
Today was a hard day at work so I am a bit tired. So just in case I did not make sence above. This is the problem...

#1 Some of the eggs roled when I picked up the container.
(I was told to move the eggs to the incabater the same way thay are layed in the nest box)

#2 I touched the girl and she flinched and I moved her body a bit, trying to pick her up (never did though), And then noticed that a egg was still comeing out of her.
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The eggs do not set until a few hours after being layed so hopefully they'll be ok. When in doubt, incubate to make sure (if you want the eggs that is). As for the other egg still coming out, she wasn't done laying. Leave her alone and check on her once a day to make sure she has finished laying all of her eggs.
1 more thing... My mom is a bit over emotional when it comes to the girl snake... She and I fight about weather we need to take the dad snake out after she layes the eggs. She said that she needs to rest and I told her that I have seen breeders just leave them together and they just act out nature and leave eachother alone. Who is right? I need to know... I dont think she is thick enough for a second clutch right away. It may kill her.
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Take the male out. The female needs time to recover from laying her eggs without the male trying to breed with her again. Just because you don't think she's thick enough for a second clutch doesn't mean it won't happen if you leave them together. If you do leave them together the chances are much higher that she would become gravid again. Take the male out and leave him out until she recovers IMO.

~Katie
 
snakes4ever said:
What was the temp I should incabate the eggs under? I forgot. I had it set up for the past week at 75 - 80*.

1 more thing... My mom is a bit over emotional when it comes to the girl snake... She and I fight about weather we need to take the dad snake out after she layes the eggs. She said that she needs to rest and I told her that I have seen breeders just leave them together and they just act out nature and leave eachother alone. Who is right? I need to know... I dont think she is thick enough for a second clutch right away. It may kill her.
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82-84 F is a good temperature range for incubation.

You and your mother are both right. How's that for fence straddling? :) Either course of action is okay., though taking the male out is somewhat preferable. If you give her a 16 hour light, 8 hour dark photoperiod, she will probably not double clutch. She might double clutch under a 12 hour light photoperiod even without a male.

Otherwise, I'm with Katie.

Good luck.
 
I think your Mother is correct, although I am not a breeder, I am a Mother and emotional. While snakes in the wild can do their own thing, they don't
co-habit in a small area. They don't co-habit at all. Most likely in the wild the female would stay far away from the male most of the time, especially after laying eggs. IMHO susan
 
I heard on a nature show that humans are the only animal that can suppress the instinct to procreate. I'd separate them at least until the female has recovered.
 
That's normal - just leave them in a clump. I'd just cover the whole clump with moss to incubate (one reason I prefer moss to vermiculite) Eggs will normally form into a clump unless you are pestering the female and taking them away from her one by one (not advised)
I thought you said you had bred her a couple of times before? Didn't her first clutches clump together too?
 
This is her third clutch and no, she has never had her eggs stuck together. And if they were, it was only 2 of the eggs stuck together. But there was the original parents from the father that I thnk may have had a clump together.
 
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