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Dog attack

Poor breeding is detrimental to the temperament of ANY breed. Ask anyone who works with Dalmatian rescues about the dogs they got in the five years after 101 Dalmatians came out....there were some NASTY dogs bred. The worst bite I've ever received was from a very poorly bred Golden....with loving owners who took good care of her.

Bullies have it especially bad because SO MANY people are breeding them for the wrong reasons and not putting any effort into it because they just want to make money. In Oakland, near me, there are a LOT of badly bred bullies from local breeders....you can even guess at which breeder some of the dogs came from because they go for a particular 'look' in their dogs. There are also a lot of fantastic bullies in Oakland....

Unfortunately, we don't have a crystal ball that will tell us how a puppy's temperament is going to change when it hits sexual maturity. Sure, some things can be guessed at....the bold, outgoing puppy vs the reserved, shy one, and whatnot. BUT when they hit "butthead teenager" stage is when a LOT of the dogs who are going to display temperament issues start to do it. Until then they've just been a typical puppy. So a lot of nice families end up with problem animals because they didn't insist on meeting mom and dad, or didn't realize that the way the parents were acting was a red flag, and took home a problem pup without realizing it.

My hubby and I are planning on adding a bullydog to the family, probably late this year...and for the reasons stated above, I will not start with a puppy. I want to find an established adult dog with a stable temperament so I don't have to worry about how Fifi is going to change when she hits adulthood.
 
I understand all the posts, the advocating, love of ownership, breeding inadequacies, etc, etc, etc. But folks no matter the reason the facts are that bully breeds account for an inordinate numbers of attacks and fatalities. Wade posted a link earlier showing the facts and the one Shiari posted above shows it also. One can spin facts all day 'in 1979-80 Danes killed more than bullies'. Sure 3 is bigger than 2 so that is a fact, we should also note that during the study period bullies (and their mixes) killed 77 and Danes 8. That paints a pretty different picture.

For all the talk of breeding it seems according to the link above that "pure bred" bullies by far and away lead. I have read countless times in this thread about bullies not being human aggressive. But in the link above they are more likely than the next two breeds combined to be involved in fatalities. And note those next two breeds would probably be used as more of a human aggressive dog (Rots and GSDs as guard and police dogs).

As I said before I don't want the breed to go away. I don't want the .gov controlling all either(mainly because they are incapable of doing most things correctly). But you can't just say don't count the bad dogs in the breed, don't count the mis-raised dogs in the breed, don't count the aggressive dogs in the breed, don't count the mis-treated dogs in the breed, poor parenting, etc, etc, etc. They all count and the breed is a dangerous breed period.

There have been comparisons to large snake owners in here too. I can't say I have read every thread ever posted here but for the life of me I can't recall a retic owner or a rock owner ever saying they were not a dangerous snake. :shrugs: Even when one kills a small child or the neighbors pet you hear the bad owners line but never added was the they are not dangerous line. :shrugs:

Nobody here is saying that a responsible owner can't raise a reasonably stable dog. But to seemingly outright dismiss the dangers inherent in general in the breed, or at least place blame on every other factor available, does neither the breed nor its ownership any good.

I own a GSD. She is a big baby but I have little doubt that at 90+ lbs and with a jaw full of teeth that if she decided to attack that she would be very dangerous. And no I don't know nor could I guarantee or even guess what or when something might cause her to attack.

Bottom line is large dogs are dangerous and bullies LEAD all in being dangerous.
 
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