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As long as you open the viv for other things such as cleaning, water, and handling there's little chance of having a trained response to opening the lid. I have fed both in the viv (on a paper substrate only) and in feeding boxes. There are some of my snakes that when I got them, were too nervous to eat in a seperate container. All hatchlings were fed in their containers. With many babies to feed it was easier and I could just put it in there, close the lid and leave them alone to eat when they felt safe. I would check on them the next day to make sure they ate it and remove it if they hadn't. They were cleaned daily and water was checked and not one became food conditioned. My Green tree pythons are of course, all fed in their enclosures and as long as I don't stick my hand in there after dark, it's perfectly fine to go in there and to handle them. I've actually been bitten more often taking snakes out to put them in their feeding boxes than in the viv.
 
Hey Meg, what would you say to an amateur herper who was thinking about getting a green tree python? Just curious. I know they "can" be a lot more aggressive than corns. My fiance is afraid of getting a python just because you never know how aggressive they can be. I'm guessing I'd want to get a hatchling if I did decide to? Only reason being because we have the reptile expo in prince william county in va here on saturday and I may pick up my next snake. I'm torn between a Lav corn, a black mexican king snake, and a green tree python. Possibly a miami phase, but not sure yet. I really think the green trees are pretty I'm just afraid we would be afraid to handle it when it got bigger and be afraid of getting bitten. I guess I should find a forum to ask more questions about these guys. Any info you could give I'd appreciate. Also are the green trees less aggressive than the baby ball pythons?
 
Green tree pythos vary in temperament. I have 3 that are very tame, one is exceptionally tame. She's probably more calm and gentle than my cornsnakes. After dark...watch out though. I have one- a Biak- that is very nasty. Typical of the type. I'm not sure what you're talking about with Miami phase. Are you meaning a corn? If you get a green tree, I would suggest you do some research so that you can care for them properly. They are definitely not forgiving of poor husbandry and can go downhill rapidly if you don't care for them properly. Most animals you find at shows are imports. Stay far, far away from them, especially for a first one. If there is a breeder there or they tell you it was U.S. captive born and bred, then fine. They usually cost a little more. If you want a lower priced gtp you can try getting one from Troy Frantz at Frantz Herpetological. He has Jayapura types right now that are usually pretty mellow. He'll tell you if they are or not. Sorongs, Jayas and other mainland animals are probably your best bet for calm temperaments. You can also try the chondro forums and morelia viridis forums and check the classifieds. I don't know if they are less aggressive than balls as I've only handled adult balls. The adults bite too on some of them. Just luck of the draw. I also suggest you get the book The More Complete Chondro by Greg Maxwell. It will tell you everything you need to know about the gtp and you will be able to decide if you're ready to get one.
 
Thanks for all the advice. I'll check out forums and stuff and be sure to stay away from imports if I decide to get a gtp. I still have a lot more research to do so it prob wouldn't be for a while. I'm definately going to ask around as far as other owners and stuff too. I'm very good with the husbandry of my corn, but I know that's a whole different ball game so. But I appreciate all the helpful info. I meant I was looking into a miami phase corn as well. I'm prob going to stay with corns and stray away from boas and pythons, but some of them look so cool they are just hard to resist. Maybe I'll just wait a couple of years until I have a couple of adult corns so I can get used to handling bigger snakes and such. Thanks again Meg.
 
I think it also depends on the size of your snake. To avoid escaping, I feed my snakes (1 to 1.5 feet) in a paper lunch bag, fold down the top, and place the bag (sideways) back inside their cage until they have eaten. When they have eaten, I open the bag and let them slither back into their environment. Its like a separate feeding room in their cage. With my bigger snake (3.5 feet) I place him in a box and put the box back in the cage. Escaping is'nt a worry this way and there is no substrate near their food, as far as handling there is very little and stress seams minnimal.
Hope this helps anyone.
 
Sorry I got off subject on my last post 2 out of my 6 snakes will not eat if I just put the mouse in the cage and I have to keep them in close quarters with their food. one other snake I have would bite us if we did'nt bring him food even though he was handled regularly when I fed him in his cage. Other than health issues, I think it also depends on how well you know your snake and their habits.
Tell your wife thats what they are used to and you don't want to spring any changes on your guys and upset them.
 
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