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Geeez - Nosy Employees (& "impounded" snakes)
- Thread starter Pasodama
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vetusvates
Gamaliel's Principle
......so they opened the box.
And that is how my formal complaint would begin.
You know, I have received some boxes of corns marked live snakes, Elaphe guttata, live reptiles, etc., etc., etc.,....and some totally unmarked.
Makes me wonder if totally unmarked isn't the simplest way. I'm guessing different states have particular laws on how a box should be labeled....or can be left unlabeled.
And that is how my formal complaint would begin.
You know, I have received some boxes of corns marked live snakes, Elaphe guttata, live reptiles, etc., etc., etc.,....and some totally unmarked.
Makes me wonder if totally unmarked isn't the simplest way. I'm guessing different states have particular laws on how a box should be labeled....or can be left unlabeled.
vetusvates
Gamaliel's Principle
None of my delivery men/women "strike" me as reptile lovers. 
But you know, sometimes they suspect and ask. It seems like it is kind of the highlight of their day.
I liked the species name idea, until you brought up that the very ones who knew what it was would be the tempted ones.
Watch my next delivery go wwaaaayyyyyyy south...and by south, I mean bad......
But you know, sometimes they suspect and ask. It seems like it is kind of the highlight of their day.
I liked the species name idea, until you brought up that the very ones who knew what it was would be the tempted ones.
Watch my next delivery go wwaaaayyyyyyy south...and by south, I mean bad......
The_Thunderer
New member
I'm with Eric... What business is it of theirs to open the box??? It is time to file a BIG complaint and figure out a way to get those snakes where they belong (here in Phoenix actually ). Even the police are "unsure that any laws were broken" so why did they take them to an animal rescue instead of repackaging them and getting them to the recipient?
Of course, this is assuming that the shipper was legit in the first place...
I've received many snakes through FEDEX. Each time, the person at the Kinko's I received them from KNEW what was inside (I know some boxes were clearly marked, but am not sure if ALL of them were). They were curious as to what I was getting but respected my privacy and never once gave me a hard time. Boy, I certainly appreciate them MORE now.
). Even the police are "unsure that any laws were broken" so why did they take them to an animal rescue instead of repackaging them and getting them to the recipient?Of course, this is assuming that the shipper was legit in the first place...
I've received many snakes through FEDEX. Each time, the person at the Kinko's I received them from KNEW what was inside (I know some boxes were clearly marked, but am not sure if ALL of them were). They were curious as to what I was getting but respected my privacy and never once gave me a hard time. Boy, I certainly appreciate them MORE now.
ZoologyGirl
Under Tank Heather
The 4 times I've had snakes delivered, the fedex/kinkos people usually seemed interested. Heck, they were making jokes about it. One time they told me they named it 'harry the harmless' (from the 'live harmless reptile' shipping label)
vetusvates
Gamaliel's Principle
Heather that reminds me,...at my apartments, I have a little neighbor-lady, who stations her (sweetly innocently nosy) self outside her door in the mornings in what would be her porch-type-area-space. To "neighborhood-watch".
She knows I work late and sleep late, and she can "feel" a FedEx coming from a mile a way. Flags *cough, tackles, cough* the man down and signs for me almost every time.
(I had to explain this to a breeder/shipper a few weeks ago....the "showing up received but I don't actually quite have it yet"....as my neighbor-lady is staring at it waiting for a jeanie to come out.)
She knows I work late and sleep late, and she can "feel" a FedEx coming from a mile a way. Flags *cough, tackles, cough* the man down and signs for me almost every time.
(I had to explain this to a breeder/shipper a few weeks ago....the "showing up received but I don't actually quite have it yet"....as my neighbor-lady is staring at it waiting for a jeanie to come out.)
VickyChaiTea
Snake enthusiast
LOL vetusvates, that sounds like a nice neighbor.
I was confused, at first I thought that the snakes where being shipped in a pillow case... lol. Nothing wrong with shipping snakes.
I once tried using USPS to ship my snake to my new house in RI, but the lady was adamant about not letting it happen.
The story is kinda funny, actually. I went down there with my fish, snakes, and cockroaches all packed up and ready to go. I told the lady what was in the boxes, and she gave me a look of horror. Everyone else in the office looked at the roach box with suspicious/fear. XD
She said that I could ship the fish, but not the roaches or snake. Which was odd, because the roaches weren't considered a pest species and the snake was a US native (corn snake).
I was confused, at first I thought that the snakes where being shipped in a pillow case... lol. Nothing wrong with shipping snakes.
I once tried using USPS to ship my snake to my new house in RI, but the lady was adamant about not letting it happen.
The story is kinda funny, actually. I went down there with my fish, snakes, and cockroaches all packed up and ready to go. I told the lady what was in the boxes, and she gave me a look of horror. Everyone else in the office looked at the roach box with suspicious/fear. XD
She said that I could ship the fish, but not the roaches or snake. Which was odd, because the roaches weren't considered a pest species and the snake was a US native (corn snake).
Hypancistrus
New member
Reading these things is really making me laugh out loud! Ha!
I was a little miffed today that the box our little Steve-O came in was not marked, at the very least, with a this end up, or fragile... the lady was NOT gentle about handling the package and sat it on its end....
I was a little miffed today that the box our little Steve-O came in was not marked, at the very least, with a this end up, or fragile... the lady was NOT gentle about handling the package and sat it on its end....
The requirement, of labeling boxes with species name/s, etc., falls under the Lacey Act.
I really have mixed feelings about labeling the box.
I agree. Cannot imagine what was on the box, that made it a suspicious package, but ... if I were the shipper/seller ... I'd be quite miffed. Then, quite angry that they seized the snakes and handed them over to a rescue.
Cute.
LOL
Well, it's nice that she signs for your packages.
One time, when I had a snake delivered via UPS, my daughter answered the door and ... the delivery person, accidentally, dropped the box. My daughter, then, came to me, with box in hand, and stated that the "oops man" had been by. I was confused, at first, until she told me what had happened.<g>
glenhead
Elder curmudgeon
The newspaper article said the employees "saw on the package something that triggered suspicion". The Lacey Act says the package has to be clearly marked with what's inside. Whaddaya bet it was one of those boxes that was pre-printed with "Live Harmless Reptiles"?
Here in Texas, what the employees did would be considered livestock rustling, a third-degree felony with up to two years in jail. Hammer down.
Here in Texas, what the employees did would be considered livestock rustling, a third-degree felony with up to two years in jail. Hammer down.