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God, i just can't kill mice
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TigerLilly
WiLd&CrAzEy tHiNg
I have to feed her outside because my Mother doesn't like snakes or the way they eat.
I also don't have a heat lamp, because I was told that corns, like kings, would be fine as long as it has a constant room temp (however I am considering one). The temp in my house remains constant and is a good temp for her, as she is active when she wants to be. I just let her roam outdoors because she likes to and I thought the sunshine, being a bit warmer than in the house, would help her digest.
I also don't have a heat lamp, because I was told that corns, like kings, would be fine as long as it has a constant room temp (however I am considering one). The temp in my house remains constant and is a good temp for her, as she is active when she wants to be. I just let her roam outdoors because she likes to and I thought the sunshine, being a bit warmer than in the house, would help her digest.
TigerLilly
WiLd&CrAzEy tHiNg
Anya's about 2 1/2-3 feet long. And no not really, she's very placid and never bites. Whenever I'm out side with her I stay close (she's not afraid of people so this doesn't bother her). If she decides to slow down and just explore I sit down beside her so she can come and sit in my lap for saftey, but if she starts to pick up speed and go someplace I don't want her to, I gently redirect her by slipping my hand under her neck and slidding her upperbody in the other direction. The trick is to always have a hand close to her tail that way she has space but if she begins to race off I can carefully grab her before goes to wherever I can't reach
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MegF.
That's for sale???
Next time I would put her in her viv so that she can digest on her heater pad. Laying in the sun, I would think, would make her nervous. During feeding, and right after, they would be most vulnerable to predators. She might have been trying to find a good place to hide. Why do you feed her outdoors? It's great that she's comfortable to eat with you there. My snake has grabbed food while still on my hand too. Once a week is fine.
TigerLilly
WiLd&CrAzEy tHiNg
kewl.
I find it pretty neat that you feed her outside and all and let her have some natural light to help with digestion but then again, how long do you stay with her outside? It takes quite a while for them to fully digest a meal. I think you'd be better off feeding her outside (cause your mom doesn't want it eating in the house or whatever) and then placing it back in it's viv with an under the tank heat pad on one end of it's viv so it can rest and digest.
Taking the snake outside again after digestion might be kinda cool though (although I'd be too paranoid about mine taking off like a bat outta hell)
Taking the snake outside again after digestion might be kinda cool though (although I'd be too paranoid about mine taking off like a bat outta hell)
Adam & Eve
Gotta love those herps
wouldn't there be an easier way to kill the mouse so it would be quick and painless? I know my local provider has found a way, but I don't know what he does. I don't kill my own mice (It'd take a lot of will power to get me to do it...) So does any1 know? I think it's a really neat idea to let the snake digest in the sun. (Doesn't work so well in Indiana at this time of year...) I'd be WAY to parinoid to do that also, maybe when my snakes get a little larger... or a lot.
There are three widely accepted methods of euthanasia for prey animals. The first~ most effective, humane and recomended by the AVMA is CO2 Euthanasia~
http://www.thereddragonsden.com/co2.htm
The next most effective is cervical dislocation. This is a better method for smaller numbers of animals~ but requires the person to be more personally involved in the kill and is difficult with large prey. Place the prey animal on a stable surface~ hold secuirly by the tail~ place the blade of a screw driver behind the neck just at the base of the scull~ press down with the screw driver enough to secure the animal (animal will struggle)~ pull HARD and FAST upwards and backwards on the tail. You should hear a crack~ the animal will twitch but if you did it correctly (You must completly sever the spinal cord) the animal is effectively dead and pain receptors on the body no longer reach the brain (In other words the twitching is the nerves firing off the last of the electrical impulses stored in the spinal colum~ give it a minuite and it will stop)
With larger rats it is easy to accidently skin the tail of the rat rather than effectively kill it~ I would recomend combining method two and three on larger rats~ Stun first then dislocate
For the squeemish you can "Stun" or "Thump" the prey~ but "Dead" animals sometimes wake up and are MEAN after this (I don't blame them~ bet it hurts like hell if you wake up after this) I would not recomend it except as a combination with cervical dislocation for larger rats.
Put the prey item in a pillow case (Not one your going to sleep on again) and swing HARD into a HARD surface. THUMP. Not pleasant. Remember~ this MAY kill the animal~ will stun it~ but if you don't finish the kill after a stun then the animal will wake up mean and in pain. If you can't bring yourself to do it right~ bring the animal to someone who can~ just because the animal has to die in order to feed our pet does not mean it has to die painfully.
Hope that helps. Put a lot of thought and research into this myself over the years~ I've tried asking them to fall over and stop breathing~ but they don't seem to get it.
Good luck!
http://www.thereddragonsden.com/co2.htm
The next most effective is cervical dislocation. This is a better method for smaller numbers of animals~ but requires the person to be more personally involved in the kill and is difficult with large prey. Place the prey animal on a stable surface~ hold secuirly by the tail~ place the blade of a screw driver behind the neck just at the base of the scull~ press down with the screw driver enough to secure the animal (animal will struggle)~ pull HARD and FAST upwards and backwards on the tail. You should hear a crack~ the animal will twitch but if you did it correctly (You must completly sever the spinal cord) the animal is effectively dead and pain receptors on the body no longer reach the brain (In other words the twitching is the nerves firing off the last of the electrical impulses stored in the spinal colum~ give it a minuite and it will stop)
With larger rats it is easy to accidently skin the tail of the rat rather than effectively kill it~ I would recomend combining method two and three on larger rats~ Stun first then dislocate
For the squeemish you can "Stun" or "Thump" the prey~ but "Dead" animals sometimes wake up and are MEAN after this (I don't blame them~ bet it hurts like hell if you wake up after this) I would not recomend it except as a combination with cervical dislocation for larger rats.
Put the prey item in a pillow case (Not one your going to sleep on again) and swing HARD into a HARD surface. THUMP. Not pleasant. Remember~ this MAY kill the animal~ will stun it~ but if you don't finish the kill after a stun then the animal will wake up mean and in pain. If you can't bring yourself to do it right~ bring the animal to someone who can~ just because the animal has to die in order to feed our pet does not mean it has to die painfully.
Hope that helps. Put a lot of thought and research into this myself over the years~ I've tried asking them to fall over and stop breathing~ but they don't seem to get it.
Good luck!