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Great Fishing Story..But Now Need Help!

Brewster320

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Ok this is a long, yet interesting story about my day. Well to day I was home doing nothing and my younger brother, Owen (11), starts having a conversation with me and eventually asks me if I want to go fishing down at local farm. They have some animals for the kids by mainly its and orchard and its like in the middle of the city but its a quiet wooded suburban area so its nice place to go and not to far from where I live, I usually go herping down there as well. Well I though I'd be a good big brother and go fishing with him for awhile.

When we got down there, we went through the orchard, and got to the pond we set up and put out lines out and set up some minnow traps we had made out of coke bottles. Well after an hour into we have caught nothing but we knew there were fish because of all the jumping and splashing they were doing so it was very annoying. Then finally Owen got a bite and tried to real it in. You could tell there was something huge on the line but it wasn't fighting like a big fish plus this isn't a very big pond so I wasn't expecting any real big fish. Well eventually I grabbed the line with my hands and started pulling it in. As it started to get into the shallower water I could see the round shape come out of te murky depths. At this point I knew it was a turtle and I was thinking to myself "Oh great hes got a snapping turtle". But then as the turtle got closer it poked its head of of the water I could see its dead give away markings on its head. I jumped down into the water because I didn't want to loose it and I grabbed it an brought it up onto land. Sure enough it was a huge Red Eared Slider.

Now as a person who can name all the native reptiles of Massachusetts off the top of my head I knew Red Ears aren't a Native Species. I know there are some introduced populations in part of the state but this is the first time I have ever seen one in my city so I beilive this one was somebody's pet who just brought it down to the pond and realeased it. At the size she is she is definately a female(12" shell length), I have a size 13 shoe and shes as big as my shoe! Also I believe she is gravid becuase she has to large, ping pong ball shapes the are between her tail and back legs on both sides. I'm not completely sure on that(turtle experts help me out!) but the thing that scares me is if she is gravid that means there is likely atleast 1 more turtle in that pond. I'm afraid that if there are more Red Ears there that they could eventually spread to other larger ponds in my area where there are very large populatiuons of native turtle such as painteds, musks, snappers, and even a small population of spotted turtles(which are threatened in MA) and out compete them for food, basking, and nesting sites(especially the poor little spotteds). Any body have any thought of something I could do, like should I report this or something? I'd be really upset if they spread into other ponds and wiped out the native turtles.

After we caught her I cleaned off the leeches she had on her, took the hook out of her cheek (she never actually bit it but some how got it stuck in her cheek?), checked her over, took some pictures, and brought her home until I can figure out what to do with her. For now shes in a plastic kiddy pool with a lay box full of a sand coconut fiber mixture I made for nestin/basking spot, a lamp, and a chicken wire ramp thats held down with large rocks. It is kind of makeshift but its the best that I can do for now. Any help, info, or advise would be great! Thanks!

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The only thing I can think of is to report it to the local fish and game? I haven't seen any red eared sliders around here, but I have seen something like them with yellow instead of red on the head. Is it not native?
 
The only thing I can think of is to report it to the local fish and game? I haven't seen any red eared sliders around here, but I have seen something like them with yellow instead of red on the head. Is it not native?
They are probably painted turtles for something a long those lines, they look similar to a Red Ear Slider.

What other turtles could she mate with? I think they can intergrade or hybridize to some extent. That's probably more likely than another non-native turtle in the same pond.


***************Wait- I thought you said painted turtle. But I found this website that says RES are non-native but found throughout the state. http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dfw/nhesp/conservation/herps/turtle_tips.htm

I guess you have to keep her!!

I've thought about that hybrid idea to but I really can't picture a 4" long Eastern Painted turtle mating with her. Who knows.

Also I know there are some colonies and from what I've read where ever the sliders go they wipe out or out compete the native turtles. In my town we have a really nice population of turtles and I this is the first time I've ever seen a slider out here. She was in an isolated pond but I'm afraid that if they some how spread out they would have a negative effect on out native turtle population.
 
Well, if you don't want to release her, or keep her, is there a reptile rescue that will take her?
 
Well, if you don't want to release her, or keep her, is there a reptile rescue that will take her?

I believe there is one in Southern MA that is run by the herp society. They put adoption adds on Craigslist all the time. Also I bet NERD's in NH would take her. I know they take in iguanas and stuff so they would probably take her as well. For now though I guess shes with me. After all I have a kiddy pool in the middle of my room for her lol. I think my mom thinks I've officaly lost it, 1st a bunch of tanks, then a rack system, now a big kiddie pool in the middle of my room lol.
 
Well, she's probably just fine like that for a while. Every adult turtle I've had temporarily has been very easy to feed with nightcrawlers or canned dogfood.
 
Well, she's probably just fine like that for a while. Every adult turtle I've had temporarily has been very easy to feed with nightcrawlers or canned dogfood.

Ya, I currently have two painted turtles which are actually my pets. they will eat what ever I give them and they are pretty good about it. I've just been offering her their food but so far she doesn't seem interested. Also this morning I found her completely burried in her egg laying box so I think shes been getting ready.
 
Also I know there are some colonies and from what I've read where ever the sliders go they wipe out or out compete the native turtles. In my town we have a really nice population of turtles and I this is the first time I've ever seen a slider out here. She was in an isolated pond but I'm afraid that if they some how spread out they would have a negative effect on out native turtle population.

Well, then it's a good thing you found her before she dropped those eggs! =)

Maybe you can start "RES hunting" whenever you go to the pond in question? Or something like that.

Good luck with whatever you choose to do with her. =)
 
For now though I guess shes with me. After all I have a kiddy pool in the middle of my room for her lol. I think my mom thinks I've officaly lost it, 1st a bunch of tanks, then a rack system, now a big kiddie pool in the middle of my room lol.

Your mom should count her blessings. If I ever have a kid, I hope he's a lot like you! :)
 
Well, then it's a good thing you found her before she dropped those eggs! =)

Maybe you can start "RES hunting" whenever you go to the pond in question? Or something like that.

Good luck with whatever you choose to do with her. =)

Ya that what I thought but then I did my research and this is probably her last clutch of the year. Apparently they lay like 5 clutchs a year starting in May so theres probably another 4 clutch out there.I canonly hope some racoon or coyote drug them up.

Also I plan to keep my eye out for the though I imagen they won't be easy to catch.

Your mom should count her blessings. If I ever have a kid, I hope he's a lot like you! :)

Lol! Thanks! My mom is happy to have me and loves that I love my animals so much, she just thinks I'm nuts going to the extent I do inorder to keep them happy lol!

I plan on having my dad talk to the animal control officer(he's good friends with) about this an he'll probably know what to do. He'll end up in calling either a trapper or fish and game.
 
Good News! I recently discovered that she is not gravid and what I thought where eggs are actually her leggs bone. So thats good news which means hopefully there aren't any other sliders there so now I only need to worry about this 1 turtle!
 
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