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Help me!! I need reassurance...

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Beanie
Checked on my brumating snakes today and changed their water, hadn't looked at them in about 4 days. Anyway - they seemed ok I guess, very quite and just looked at me with a couple tongue flicks. But I've never brumated before... Are they usually really still and stop coming out of hiding ever?? I know they will be fine, its just so weird not seeing them climbing about and it feels so wrong that they are so cold!!
 
iv never brumated my snakes personally, but from what iv read this sounds like normal behaviour. Good luck with your breeding plans, iv got to wait till next year my male Anery is only 1 year old
 
One other thing - I may be imagining it but their mouths seem a little discoloured. The white scales around their mouths maybe look a bit brownish or something. But they do seem happy enough. This couldnt be early signs on any infection or anything? Because they both seem to have it... (Maybe I'm paranoid)
 
They can still go in shed while brumating, could that be it? Hard to tell without a picture but scale rot is caused by too much humidity, make sure their vivs are nice and dry.
It's normal for them to feel cold and still. Remember they are cold blooded and get their heat from external sources, when it's cold they won't move much as it takes energy. This is why it's not too good to brumate at higher temps, they will lose weight from still being active if it's not cold enough. I try not to disturb mine much during their big sleep, I give them fresh water but that's it. If you are checking them every 4 - 5 days take care you do not disrupt their sleep cycle too much.
 
Nah I'm sure they aren't going into shed... The humidity is high. Its about 75. But its always been high before where I live. I've got minimal water bowls and tons of holes drilled. Is there any other way I can decrease humidity without disturbing them too much? It doesn't look like rot, but it might be :eek1: is it serious if it is scale rot? Do they need antibiotics?

I've never had mites, regurgitation, refused feeding, bad shed, respiratory infection, or anything. I'm not used to dealing with problems. :shrugs:
 
Without seeing a picture it is difficult to give a good diagnosis of what the problem may be. It very well maybe nothing. Did they stay in the same viv as usual and you just dropped the temps? Or did you move them to different enclosure for brumation? The humidity can be dropped a couple different ways, if you are using aspen or cypress mulch and the current substrate is a little most gently remove the moist substrate and replace it with nice try mulch. Again as stated before you don't want to be messing with them too much during this time. I would check the water once a week and that about it. If you can take some pictures without having to disturb them too much try it so we can help you out a little better.
 
The temps were dropped in their vivs and then they were moved to brumation tubs, I am using newspaper as I know aspen etc. is a little moist. The water bowls are minimal sizes. I will take pictures on Sunday, don't want to disturb them again till then.
 
It's possible the "brown" you're seeing is smudged ink from the newspaper. Mine get that sometimes. Pics will help determine what it is or might be.
 
It's possible the "brown" you're seeing is smudged ink from the newspaper. Mine get that sometimes. Pics will help determine what it is or might be.

Thats what I was thinking

Likewise.

Don't worry, Colleen - as long as you're providing fresh water, they'll be fine....and I wouldn't doubt that those "couple of tongue flicks" seemed to be in slow motion. I always find that kind of funny...but we're talking ectotherms here....as goes the temperature, so goes their metabolism.

regards,
jazz
 
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