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help seriously bought corn snake from snake dealer gone bad

hewettthing

hewettthing

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Okay I went to this shady house to buy a corn snake inside it seemed quite plesent but when we got downstairs in a locked room he had tubs of illegal snakes and also at least 500 hatchling the snake he gave me he said was 2 yrs old but looked no bigger than a hatchling I questioned him but have to believe him because until my snake starts shedding regualy I won't really know so anyways this little yellow beautiful snake he opens up the tiny container three rows behind other containers I'm talking small coil up in a circle to fit small this is what my poor snake had endured for 2 yrs I brought him home and he won't come out of his hut we take him out regualy and he's becoming more friendly at first every time we would take him out he'd poop but now he doesn't I have not seen any at all poop in his cage so I assumed he just doesn't like to poop in there I read if you give them a warm bath and massage them they will poop well he does poop a little but his bum looked red and inflamed puffy is more like it when he pooped tonight he has eaten three mice with only 2 poops that I've had to pretty much force out of him and I can feel his puffy Ness that he's backed up I don't have enough money for a vet I'm on medical welfare my cats all got spayed and microchips and all their shots for free from an organization that helps animals because I had a rough life they help ppl like me never the less I'm so worried about franko what can I do first thing in the morning I'll try to get the center to end all sexual exploitation to help me but other than that until the end of the month I am broke I scared for franko he barley pooped at all and won't poop in his cage or come out of his hut unless at night he cruises around I dno concerned mother here so some one help me please figure what's wrong with him
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how do you know all those snakes were illegal? What constitutes an illegal snake?

Did you buy an illegal snake? Should I call the cops?
 
My snake is just a corn but hr had rattle snake hatchling I already called animal control people ive looked for his kijiji ad and can't find it anywhere or the emails he sent me were anonymous

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Karl_Mcknight said:
how do you know all those snakes were illegal? What constitutes an illegal snake?

Did you buy an illegal snake? Should I call the cops?
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I tried calling the cops his kijiji ad is down since I did so I don't know if he got busted but he bragged about having rattlers

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I kinda wanna find this guy, shove him in a tiny sealed box, then take all of his snakes.
I like snakes!
 
Tiny boxes like little deli cups? He may have recently returned from a show he was vending at, and hadn't taken the animals out yet. Or, maybe he recently got in a large order, as a possible wholesaler.

Lots of people keep hots. Local laws on that vary.
I wouldn't go making trouble for someone without knowing details.

You are blessed with a lovely new pet.
My advice: just focus on that.
 
The religious folks in Kentucky and West Virginia that handle rattle snakes in their weekly services will be worried now that the word is out that they are illegal.




Not
 
My guess, and it is just a guess... the room was locked in order to be in compliance with the law, as a means of restricting access to the venemous snakes.

The first time I saw stacks of deli cups, I found it very off putting too. The reality is, the cups are used for vending and shipping, and the animals probably don't spend more than a day or two in there. These are actually a pain to get open and closed - I've never known anyone to use them as housing. The animals are housed in racked tubs, which is fairly cheap, and MUCH easier to deal with.

You know this guy's address, right?... you were at his house. If he was really doing something illegal, I expect he would have met you somewhere else. Also, you found the upper house pleasant...no red flags yet...creepy people usually give off bad vibes from the get go, and also tend to keep icky homes. You trusted this stranger enough to follow him into his house, into the basement, and into a locked room.

Maybe just a case of misunderstanding/culture shock?
 
None of this is meant to criticize, it is meant to educate and to help so please keep an open mind with what I'm about to say. I and everyone I know here wants to help you have a healthy and happy and long lived snake.

Snakes poop when they need to. He's red because you are "forcing it" out of him. Please don't do that. They only poop once a week or so and you may miss it, so don't assume he hasn't pooped just because you haven't seen it.

Not coming out of his hide during the day is normal. Cruising around at night is normal.

Make sure you are feeding him appropriately and keep his enclosure and water clean. Provide proper warm and cool hides. If you don't know what any of that means please ask and we will help.

And for God's sake, please give your snake a rest! They are easily stressed. Your snake should not be handled for at least 2 full days after eating and while in shed. Your snake should not be handled for 5 to 7 days when you first bring it home, but I guess it's too late for that.

And yes, don't vape around your snake. He only has one functional lung. They are very sensitive to airborne substances.
 
my guess is - (just by reading the original mindless garbled mess of a post)

a corn snake or two rattled at the dude and he crapped his panties and ran away yelling "Rattlesnake.... Rattlesnake...."
 
I also wonder if the first several "poops" you saw when you handled your snake was actually musk. Snakes musk when they are scared. Corn snakes rarely musk, but any snake can musk if scared enough. It all comes out of the vent so unless you know for sure it was actually poop, it may have been musk.

I don't know your story, but I understand from your post that you've been through some rough stuff. I've been through some rough stuff myself, so I don't mean to come off as unkind or critical. You've probably had enough of that in your life. I just want to help you give your snake have a happy life.
 
I had some serious trouble even understanding the post, gosh, but I agree with Dolly's mum. Seems to me you are overstressing the snake, and that can cause more trouble than what you think.
It has to adapt until it begins to have a routine for feedings/poops and first weeks home are quite stressful for them, so they hide A LOT. If you say it seems a hatchling, which does seem by the size in the picture, they are even more prone to hiding. If it truly had endured poor conditions for 2 years, you can't do anything about that now, so just concentrate in giving a proper care to it from now on.
It's normal for them just to cruise at night, and also that they get caught cruising and rush to a cave because they are scared of you. Give it time to relax.
And please, (if I managed to understand well) stop forcing the poop out of it or, in the end, you're gonna cause some serious injury to the poor animal for which you won't be having the money to get a vet visit.
 
DollysMom said:
I also wonder if the first several "poops" you saw when you handled your snake was actually musk. Snakes musk when they are scared. Corn snakes rarely musk, but any snake can musk if scared enough. It all comes out of the vent so unless you know for sure it was actually poop, it may have been musk.

I don't know your story, but I understand from your post that you've been through some rough stuff. I've been through some rough stuff myself, so I don't mean to come off as unkind or critical. You've probably had enough of that in your life. I just want to help you give your snake have a happy life.
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Thankyou so much I did have a hard life but I'm a good girl now I swear I have 3 cats one which has drunken sailor syndrome youtube it to see what it looks like all my cats are rescues and so was franko he was stuck in that Tiny container for two years unless the snake breader lied to me about his age I really want to make sure he's okay I'm a responsible person just not financially rich I survive month
. to month I just opened a savings account since now I'm on aish assisted income for the severely handicapped because I have adhd and fas but I'm normal I just want my snake to be ok I didn't know your supposed to weigh what they eat and then weigh their poop ? Can you explain what my next move should be

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Karl_Mcknight said:
my guess is - (just by reading the original mindless garbled mess of a post)

a corn snake or two rattled at the dude and he crapped his panties and ran away yelling "Rattlesnake.... Rattlesnake...."
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I'm sorry I have adhd and fas sometimes writing what I'm trying to say is hard for me

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DollysMom said:
None of this is meant to criticize, it is meant to educate and to help so please keep an open mind with what I'm about to say. I and everyone I know here wants to help you have a healthy and happy and long lived snake.

Snakes poop when they need to. He's red because you are "forcing it" out of him. Please don't do that. They only poop once a week or so and you may miss it, so don't assume he hasn't pooped just because you haven't seen it.

Not coming out of his hide during the day is normal. Cruising around at night is normal.

Make sure you are feeding him appropriately and keep his enclosure and water clean. Provide proper warm and cool hides. If you don't know what any of that means please ask and we will help.

And for God's sake, please give your snake a rest! They are easily stressed. Your snake should not be handled for at least 2 full days after eating and while in shed. Your snake should not be handled for 5 to 7 days when you first bring it home, but I guess it's too late for that.

And yes, don't vape around your snake. He only has one functional lung. They are very sensitive to airborne substances.
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I don't vape around my snake ever

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DollysMom said:
None of this is meant to criticize, it is meant to educate and to help so please keep an open mind with what I'm about to say. I and everyone I know here wants to help you have a healthy and happy and long lived snake.

Snakes poop when they need to. He's red because you are "forcing it" out of him. Please don't do that. They only poop once a week or so and you may miss it, so don't assume he hasn't pooped just because you haven't seen it.

Not coming out of his hide during the day is normal. Cruising around at night is normal.

Make sure you are feeding him appropriately and keep his enclosure and water clean. Provide proper warm and cool hides. If you don't know what any of that means please ask and we will help.

And for God's sake, please give your snake a rest! They are easily stressed. Your snake should not be handled for at least 2 full days after eating and while in shed. Your snake should not be handled for 5 to 7 days when you first bring it home, but I guess it's too late for that.

And yes, don't vape around your snake. He only has one functional lung. They are very sensitive to airborne substances.
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And I didn't take him out of his cage the first week because I read online they need to adjust to thier surroundings so it's been almost three months I've had him he's she'd once and did a beautiful job doing so 😊I'm going to follow what you said I don't take him out if he's eaten for two days should I wait longer than that

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Distaff said:
My guess, and it is just a guess... the room was locked in order to be in compliance with the law, as a means of restricting access to the venemous snakes.

The first time I saw stacks of deli cups, I found it very off putting too. The reality is, the cups are used for vending and shipping, and the animals probably don't spend more than a day or two in there. These are actually a pain to get open and closed - I've never known anyone to use them as housing. The animals are housed in racked tubs, which is fairly cheap, and MUCH easier to deal with.

You know this guy's address, right?... you were at his house. If he was really doing something illegal, I expect he would have met you somewhere else. Also, you found the upper house pleasant...no red flags yet...creepy people usually give off bad vibes from the get go, and also tend to keep icky homes. You trusted this stranger enough to follow him into his house, into the basement, and into a locked room.

Maybe just a case of misunderstanding/culture shock?
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The container franko was in was really gross he hadn't cleaned it probably for weeks he did show me his mother who was a beautiful red and frankos like a yellow with black markings on his belly I just know he had illegal snakes because he said they just hatched here in canada edmonton it's illegal I believe becaise my gf her friend left her snake over there and it was a rattler and then it a laid eggs so my friend took care of the eggs until they hatched she moved out and the guy and the girl who owned the mother rattler were taking care of the hatchlings and mom and then my gf called animal contol and they like had a swat animal team show up at least that's how she explained what happens when I asked her if rattlers were illegal

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DollysMom said:
None of this is meant to criticize, it is meant to educate and to help so please keep an open mind with what I'm about to say. I and everyone I know here wants to help you have a healthy and happy and long lived snake.

Snakes poop when they need to. He's red because you are "forcing it" out of him. Please don't do that. They only poop once a week or so and you may miss it, so don't assume he hasn't pooped just because you haven't seen it.

Not coming out of his hide during the day is normal. Cruising around at night is normal.

Make sure you are feeding him appropriately and keep his enclosure and water clean. Provide proper warm and cool hides. If you don't know what any of that means please ask and we will help.

And for God's sake, please give your snake a rest! They are easily stressed. Your snake should not be handled for at least 2 full days after eating and while in shed. Your snake should not be handled for 5 to 7 days when you first bring it home, but I guess it's too late for that.

And yes, don't vape around your snake. He only has one functional lung. They are very sensitive to airborne substances.
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How often should I fees him a pinky

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