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help, sneezing, hanging out tongue yawning like crazy

In pine or fir tree forests there isn't a bed of shavings in an enclosed space, over a heat source.
I can't get aspen at reasonable prices where I live, so for over a year I've been using a chopped barley straw bedding with good results
 
reinholds said:
But there is no other king of substrates... Ok she wont be dead after one night? So this corn granules would be better than fir. I doesn't smell much and in this company web page is written that it's good for ALL reptiles...
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How can anyone tell you that? If its not worth the risk, use paper towels.
 
We have used paper towels from day one. We also shred a bunch and have the hide spots etc for our guy to burrow under, hide in etc. It also makes me less worried about impaction. But then as you all know I worry about everything. :bang:

Everyone is different.

At 5 feet do you know her weight?

Good luck...
 
All I can say to you is, if you want to believe them do so.
Or believe us, we only have your best intrest and the corn's at heart. But if you post down the line telling us your snake is sick there's not much help we can give you if you won't listen.

Edit: Looking at your posting history I must say I'm actually suprised you're at least attempting to heed their advice. Normally you post your problem panicing, people respond and then you just disapear never saying if anything is ok or thanking anyway.
 
"The best substrate for corns is rusty razorblades." -R. Munson

Now that my advice is available on the internet, we can trust it without question. :grin01:

But seriously, look at the numerous substrate polls that have been posted here, and you'll see that most people use aspen. There are a few renegades out there who use pine shavings, but even if the risk is low, there is no denying that pine and fir oils are toxic to snakes. Sometimes my snakes make aspen soup in their water bowls, and I'm not even comfortable with them drinking that. I'd be freaking out if they were drinking oily pine soup. I don't like cypress mulch because it holds too MUCH humidity. I've used carefresh, newspaper, astro-turf, paper towels, Repti-bark, and I'm sure I'm forgetting some. I still like aspen best. :)
 
Yep sorry. My mistake. :headbang: Yes I believe to you and I'm very grateful about all your help. I don't want to experiment with my snake - I'll get aspen shaving after 2 days. I'm just thinking what those people is thinking about when they write that it's ok to use fir, pine ect. For example you know all from your great experience, but those who write that it's ok to use them practically expose to danger all who are searching what to give to snakes.
I didn't want to say that you are doing something wrong. I wanted to pay attention that it's very easy to find wrong web pages...
Sorry if I offended someone.
P.S.
I zoo corn snakes live on sands, is it good substrate?
 
No no no sand is a HORRIBLE substrate for corns :(
So much risk of impaction, getting underneath their scales, in their eyes their mouth their noses
 
reinholds said:
Hi All!
I bought her new substrates. Is it ok with Exo-Terra Forest Bark . I found it in local zoo shop. All other was made from pine, but this one from fir. There wasn't anything else. Can corn snake live in that substrate?
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That depends primarily on how the wood was dried. Kiln dried pine or fir is relatively safe, as the drying process eliminates the toxic off-gassing. If the wood has no odor, it is probably fine to use. I personally use a 50/50 mix of aspen shavings and kiln dried pine shavings because I like the softer texture the addition of pine gives the substrate.
 
I wouldn't worry about it- the odor in other woods is toxic compared to the Aspen odor- the most this does is make poops smell a little bit better. ;)
 
reinholds said:
I'm just thinking what those people is thinking about when they write that it's ok to use fir, pine ect.
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They probably think about how much money they make off of people who just don't know any better, myself included in the past, I'm sure we have all been conned in some way at some or other stage.

Makes me wonder though...are the companies who sell these products that are labelled "suitable for all reptiles" just ignorant? Or are they knowingly selling products that endanger the lives of animals? Either way, it's a disturbing thought...

Another example, my friend nearly lost 3 of her cats because she used a spray on dip on them that was marked "Safe to use on all animals". It contained a poisonous substance that is potentially fatal if ingested, she followed the directions exactly. Fortunately she confronted them and they paid for the vet's bills!
 
I don't know why, but he still like once in two days sneez and one time in a week hang out his tongue. He do it more rear, but still sometime he do it! What could be problem?
 
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