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MegF.
That's for sale???
My amel is a voracious eater and never takes long to down her food. I usually wait until she's moved it to the lower part of her body and is crawling around looking for....you guessed it.....more food. She's a pig! I call her Orca because she will grab food out of the air if you toss it into her feeder box. Maybe I could train her to do hoops.......
slithering
New member
once again why move the snake from its habitat 2 feed . thats got 2 be stressful 2 some degree. i drop the prey in it does its thing then MR LEE comes alive from outta the chips and does his thing . eats 2 prey within 5 mins. and ya gotta luv that
MegF.
That's for sale???
Already explained in two other posts to you. Ingestion of the substrate can kill your snake. My personal choice is to avoid injuring or killing my snakes if I can. My amel doesn't seem to be bothered by eating in a seperate container. She strikes at and constricts the frozen/thawed mice just as she would a live one. My aztec is stressed by moving her and refuses to eat in a seperate container. She is being fed in the viv on paper. I may continue that if necessary.
Alex Dew
Corn and Bp Lover
Meg is right, but also, if you feed the snake in their viv, they can get used to it, so when you put your hand it just to pick up your snake, your snake will think you have food and your snake may stike your hand. But if you have many snakes its a hassle to feed them in seperate containers, so I just feed most of mine in their vivs, but I ALWAYS put paper towle under the mouse in their viv just to make sure they dont injest and substrate. But im sure you dont have many snakes Poshey
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Rachel
Vet nurse in training!
I was just about to add that too Alex 
Slithering...you're obviously just trying to get a rise by bragging about your disgraceful animal care and welfare. Stop and think a minute....newbies might take on your 'advice' and end up with a very sick/dead snake or getting bitten when the snake starts to associate tank lid open=food. Let me point out to all newbies who read these boards, Slithering is not giving out good advice. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but it's the truth. No wonder RSPCA is trying to ban exotics based on poor husbadry from shops and owners alike when there are poeple like you giving out such advice and not taking any themselves.
Slithering...you're obviously just trying to get a rise by bragging about your disgraceful animal care and welfare. Stop and think a minute....newbies might take on your 'advice' and end up with a very sick/dead snake or getting bitten when the snake starts to associate tank lid open=food. Let me point out to all newbies who read these boards, Slithering is not giving out good advice. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but it's the truth. No wonder RSPCA is trying to ban exotics based on poor husbadry from shops and owners alike when there are poeple like you giving out such advice and not taking any themselves.
Acradon
New member
Well I don't think that the snake can get conditioned in that way that open lid equals food. But feeding in a tank with mor than 1 specimen is (let me use a harsh word) idiotic. It is bound to give trouble.
When feeding in a tank there is a great danger of the snake swallowing substrate, yes. but what if the snake does not eat outside the tank. my Python is insisting on eating in his tank. And in the wild the ground is not clean either...and yes I do know that wild animals are not as likely to grow to a great age than cptive animals, but still. I hardly believe that a swallowed piece of bark is among the top ten killers for wild snakes.
IMHO it is our responsibility as snakekeepers to care for our pet in the best possible way. And I think that an enviroment should be as natural as possible.
@ Rachel
Slithering is not completly wrong in saying that there is stress involved, when taking the snake out for feeding, although his words sounded a bit easy. Every handling is stressful for the snake, especially when she has just eaten her food. It can happen that exactly that causes regurgitation of food. You should know that.
In summary feeding inside a tank with more than one snake is a no no.
Feeding inside a tank with one snake is up to the snake and the owner.
Thats my two cents
Acradon
When feeding in a tank there is a great danger of the snake swallowing substrate, yes. but what if the snake does not eat outside the tank. my Python is insisting on eating in his tank. And in the wild the ground is not clean either...and yes I do know that wild animals are not as likely to grow to a great age than cptive animals, but still. I hardly believe that a swallowed piece of bark is among the top ten killers for wild snakes.
IMHO it is our responsibility as snakekeepers to care for our pet in the best possible way. And I think that an enviroment should be as natural as possible.
@ Rachel
Slithering is not completly wrong in saying that there is stress involved, when taking the snake out for feeding, although his words sounded a bit easy. Every handling is stressful for the snake, especially when she has just eaten her food. It can happen that exactly that causes regurgitation of food. You should know that.
In summary feeding inside a tank with more than one snake is a no no.
Feeding inside a tank with one snake is up to the snake and the owner.
Thats my two cents
Acradon
about the stress thing...
My snake started as the most problematic of all problem feeders, exactly the kind that you don't want to stress out during feeding. And I have *always* fed him outside the viv (in fact, it was the way to get him to start eating in the first place), and he eats like a champion among snakes now. So if it doesn't stress out my problem feeder snake, odds are it will have no effect on your champion eater either.
My snake started as the most problematic of all problem feeders, exactly the kind that you don't want to stress out during feeding. And I have *always* fed him outside the viv (in fact, it was the way to get him to start eating in the first place), and he eats like a champion among snakes now. So if it doesn't stress out my problem feeder snake, odds are it will have no effect on your champion eater either.
Alex Dew
Corn and Bp Lover
Im sorry Acradon, but I dont totaly agree with you.
If a snake is used to handling, it souldn't stress the snake out. It is a good excercise to handle your snake because it helps tone the muscles of your snake and makes your snake's muscles stronger which is accualy benifisual (sp?) because it helps you snake eat better becuse of its inner muscles being stonger.
I know that feeding your snake inside the viv doesn't always make the snake more agressive, but like Rachel and I said, it is still best to feed outside the viv if you can, except when you have a large collection or you snake will only eat while in its viv.
Hope this makes sence.
Cheers
Alex
If a snake is used to handling, it souldn't stress the snake out. It is a good excercise to handle your snake because it helps tone the muscles of your snake and makes your snake's muscles stronger which is accualy benifisual (sp?) because it helps you snake eat better becuse of its inner muscles being stonger.
I know that feeding your snake inside the viv doesn't always make the snake more agressive, but like Rachel and I said, it is still best to feed outside the viv if you can, except when you have a large collection or you snake will only eat while in its viv.
Hope this makes sence.
Cheers
Alex
slithering
New member
of all the times i could have posted b4 now ( tornado warnings going on here in bama ) i dont mean to criticize anybody on the handling or goodhouse keeping with their snake or snakes. MR LEE eats great in his viv he kills it ( excellant conditioning of the muscles when he does this ) and when it comes time 4 me 2 hold him outside his viv i do so without nary a nip 2 me. like i said when the feed goes in he is usually hidden within the aspen chips. take the baby mouse i fed him fri nitethat little tike put up a helluva fight. but patience is a virtue among the snake world. he slithered around his tank and come upon the critter from behind the water bowl. b4 you could see it happen he had it constricted in the water bowl.took him about 4 min to swallow that 1. i took the other 1 back to my feed store and they're gonna keep it 4 me till next feed . didnt have the heart 2 freeze it ( really my wife insisted on a divorce if it went into the freezer ). i take all comments from others as useful info.so bring it on. but seriously i mean no harm in the info that i put out to others its just what works 4 me and my snake
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Rachel
Vet nurse in training!
Acradon, if you have to feed a snake in the tank (and I do feed one of mine in tank) it should be done on paper, not anything that could be ingested. Yes, snakes in the wild don't live on paper and more than likely swallow dirt and twigs etc, but our snakes are CAPTIVE! and should be treated as such. Good welfare of companion animals is all about keeping them in the best conditions, and imo, minimising risks is keeping your snake in the best living standards. You wouldn't let your dog run free on the beach with wild seals because of possible pdv transmission (although they would be subjected to it in the wild) so why put your corn at risk from impaction?