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Huge mistake

mbraun3

mbraun3

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I think i made a huge mistake by picking up three new corns at this reptile show... the breeders seemed like good people but i dont think they den the corns before i bought them...

i bought them on Sunday the 27th... and decided to feed them yesterday... none of them were interested... so i'm going to wait till next thursday before feeding them (unless yall think other wise) so now my question is how do you get neos to eat and switch them over to f/t mice... also do yall just stick with feeding them mice or after you feed the pinky mouse you switch to pinky rats?

Thanks for all of your help in advance...

Melissa:cheers:
 
i'm going to try to avoid buying from breeders i dont know... any good breeders out there let me know! :D

Melissa
 
A. Do not handle or attempt to feed hatchlings until you have given them an undisturbed week to settle in.

B. Feed the hatchling in the evening. Put the hatchling in a small deli cup or similar container, with air holes. They prey item should be hot- about 103F. You can also cut slits in the prey's back. Cover the container and do not peek for one hour. After one hour, if the snake hasn't eaten, return the container with the snake in it to the viv, cover the container, close the viv, do not peek till morning.

C. If this fails, do not attempt again till four days later. Alternately, you may place the snake and pink in a paper lunch bag, fold the top so the snake can't easily get out, and leave it in the closed viv overnight.

What feeding method did you use?
 
I don't think its time to worry yet, I understand that you're worried but some snakes might just take longer to settle in than others.
How did you try to feed them?

Edit: damn Nanci is always faster than me.
 
i'll try that and leave them completely alone until thursday... i tried feeding them freshly killed pinky mice by putting them in a small container separated from their viv and dangling the pinky in front and i had brained the pinkys too... when they didnt take it i put them in deli cups with the pinky and left them alone for a while (not sure how long though)... when i checked on them they still hadnt eaten them, and i didnt want to try anything else cause i didnt want to stress them... so i put them back in the viv and left them alone...

Melissa
 
Have you contacted the breeder to see how they were feeding them and WHAT they were feeding them (thawed versus live)? Always go back to the original breeder first.
KJ
 
i'll do that but according to them the corns were only three weeks old (my mistaking in buying corns that young) so i didnt think they fed them... but i'll check anyways! thanks!

Melissa
 
mbraun3 said:
i'll do that but according to them the corns were only three weeks old (my mistaking in buying corns that young) so i didnt think they fed them... but i'll check anyways! thanks!

Melissa
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Actually, corns will normally eat their first meals at 7-10 days of age, and we'll feed them every 5 days after that. So, they should have 3 meals in them and be ready to ship out at 3 weeks of age. Matter of fact, if a cornsnake hasn't eaten at least once by 3 weeks post-hatch, we personally move them to the "non-feeders" shelf by then. Who was the breeder? PM me if you don't want to post it in the open.

If all three were feeders, but none are feeding for you, it is highly likely the mistake is yours: temps, too large pinks, some improper technique, live versus thawed, whatever.
 
mbraun3 said:
..... separated from their viv ...

Melissa
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I quoted this because it sounds as though you are housing them together. Maybe your not and it just sounded that way. But if you are that could be the reason for not eating.
 
no i'm not.... i feed all of my snakes in separate cages from their vivs... i'm probably going to stop doing that though as i get more snakes...

Melissa
 
mbraun3 said:
no i'm not.... i feed all of my snakes in separate cages from their vivs... i'm probably going to stop doing that though as i get more snakes...

Melissa
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I'm not sure if that is what Jen meant. Do the three hatchlings live in the same viv?
 
I think you misunderstood.
Feeding them in a seperate container is good, she quoted that because she wanted to make sure they weren't all in the same viv.

DAMN
Twice in one day too slow.
 
Again... no... no i'm not... they are all living in their seperate vivs and what i originally meant was that i was feeding them in separate cages from their vivs...

lol sorry

Melissa
 
Well you should still keep up doing that unless you're going substrate less, cause even papertowels and newspaper can get stuck to the prey. We had someone here who used to feed on paper towel in their feeding tub and the snake ate the paper towel, thankfully the snake passed it safely.
 
i'll try... but right now i only have three containers and one is a little small... it'll be a lot harder as i get more snakes... do you suggest on feeding neos in separate containers?

Melissa
 
Just buy those Gladware things and punch holes in the lids with a paper punch! You can feed them all at the same time, and no one's germs get passed around.
 

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do you assign them their own containers or does it really matter who feeds in which container... love that idea! thanks Nanci! i only had four tall cardboard boxes that i was feeling them in... not keeping them in though....

Melissa
 
mbraun3 said:
i'll do that but according to them the corns were only three weeks old (my mistaking in buying corns that young) so i didnt think they fed them... but i'll check anyways! thanks!

Melissa
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Don't panic. If, as the breeder said, they have eaten 3 meals and are 3 weeks old they could very likely be going into a second shed. Between acclimatizing to a new environment and going into the first stages of shedding, this could be the problem you are dealing with.

Hope that is all it is.

Ruth
 
I have got 13 hatchlings at the moment and I have been feeding them at night I have dangled the pinks in front of them of they are not interested I have just left the pink inside with them and leave them alone in the dark and so far that seems to have helped once I have checked on them half hour later the pink has gone and they have full bellies.
 
Thanks Ruth... i havent notice any signs of them going into a shed... but after last thursday i've been leaving them alone and letting them settle down... so i guess i should go check again to make sure... they are very skiddish when i open the lid to their containers... but i'm gess thats cause they are so young?

Melissa
 
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