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Hypo Amelanistic?

Arcanefate

Arcanefate

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Does anyone know what these guys would look like as hatchlings?

Can you determine the difference between a regular Amelanistic and a Hypomelanistic Amelanistic as a hatchling? I have a breeding this year that would have a 1/16 Hypo Amel outcome, but I have never seen a Hypo Amel hatchling before.

Does anyone out there have pics?

Thanks a bunch!
 
Arcanefate said:
Does anyone know what these guys would look like as hatchlings?

Can you determine the difference between a regular Amelanistic and a Hypomelanistic Amelanistic as a hatchling? I have a breeding this year that would have a 1/16 Hypo Amel outcome, but I have never seen a Hypo Amel hatchling before.

Does anyone out there have pics?

Thanks a bunch!
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I don't think there's a difference between hypo and normal amels. I'm only going on pictures i've seen and i think you'd have a hard time telling the two apart.
 
Check out the Lavamels ( Lava + Amel ) Lava is one of the newer forms of Hypo, just to let you know.
 
If amelanism is an absence of melanin, and hypomelanism is a reduction of melanin, then amel should mask hypo's presence. You can't reduce something that is absent in the first place. Some believe that hypo has a distinct effect on amel, such as more intense coloration, but I'm not convinced. And I'm certainly not convinced that you could identify hypo's presence in an amel hatchling. :shrugs:

Some think of hypoA as being a pattern gene too, reducing borders. But I don't know if you could look at a clutch of possible hypo-amels and say that the more thinly bordered hatchlings are definitely hypo...
 
Arcanefate said:
Does anyone know what these guys would look like as hatchlings?

Can you determine the difference between a regular Amelanistic and a Hypomelanistic Amelanistic as a hatchling? I have a breeding this year that would have a 1/16 Hypo Amel outcome, but I have never seen a Hypo Amel hatchling before.

Does anyone out there have pics?

Thanks a bunch!
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here is an interesting coincidence: http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=65&de=472406 :shrugs:
 
I was going to add that I saw some at a show once. I thought they were being sold as hymels, but maybe it was hybino. When I questioned the dealer he told me it was a common term for another species of snake (I think balls?). He said both parents were hypo (obviously het for amel) I did not see any difference compared to a "regular" amel & was a little put off by what I thought was a marketing ploy with the made up fancy name & higher price tag.
 
I believe you can tell them apart as hatchlings.

2 years ago I bred an amel hypo to a caramel het hypo and amel. So I got amels, hypo's and amel hypo's. They were different, and I think that isn't strange at all.

Amel takes away the black pigment, but it leaves white behind.
Hypo makes the black borders smaller.
So (at least to me) it's logical that a amel hypo has small white borders around the saddle's

SnakeXperience (corns.nl) bougth a couple of hypo's and a amel hypo from that clutch. Maybe he has some old 'youngster' pics.
 
This is the youngest of which i have pics stacked online, i will look for more in my dvd-database ;)

Arjan

Hypo Amel 30-1-06:
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There is no 100% way to identify them. There may be "signs" but you can't rely those solely for visual identification. The only way to be 100% positive is through breeding trials, or where you know the parents are both homo hypo.
 
blueapplepaste said:
There is no 100% way to identify them. There may be "signs" but you can't rely those solely for visual identification. The only way to be 100% positive is through breeding trials, or where you know the parents are both homo hypo.
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True but it's always interesting to see if one's right judging by the looks ;)
Here are a few pics of my Hypo Amel as juvenile, the day i bought them from Josua..

Arjan

juli 2005:
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september 2005:
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Here is a hypo amel motley.
No longer in my collection,he came from a hypo x hypo breeding.
Very bright indeed but his grandfather was a sunglow and
it look like he will be too.
 

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Thanks for the pics, SnakeXperience.

Especially next to 'normal' amels, a hypo amel stands out of the clutch, but I don't have any comparisson pics i'm affraid :(
 
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