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Hypo-Lavs (het Bloodred?)

Roy Munson

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My '05 Serpenco Hypo-Lavs. Set 1 is Hal, and set 2 is Helen. Both shed last night. They both have something like the bloodred "scream" head-pattern, but I just noticed tonight that the male also has a white line down the middle of his belly, and he's sparsely checkered for the first part of his length. I would be thrilled if one or both of these are het for bloodred. What do you think?
 

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I don't know anything about the het bloodred issue, but I always love when you post those two. They are truly my favorites of your collection. I amamazed at their growth! I wish I could get mine to do that :rolleyes:
 
...and Helen:
 

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ultimuttone said:
I don't know anything about the het bloodred issue, but I always love when you post those two. They are truly my favorites of your collection. I amamazed at their growth! I wish I could get mine to do that :rolleyes:

I'm always happy to oblige, and I'm glad you like them. :)

The male is just over 40g, and the female is just under. But for summer '05s, they're only in my 'medium-growth' group. My male amel mot, female blizzard, and female pewter are all about 53g right now. Maybe The Mouse Factory is slipping growth hormone into their feeders. :shrugs:
 
Joejr14 said:
Send your $10 or whatever it is to Rich and find out!

Tell me more about this, Joe. I didn't realize that he offered this info. Does he go by order number? I dug out the invoice on these two, and I don't see a specific identifier for the items (beyond description). :shrugs:
 
In a similar vein, I often get requests for geneology or parentage records, or hatching dates for the animals I send out. This takes time out of my already busy schedule and I cannot continue to do this without considering the costs to me. As such, I have to charge $10 per animal to do any of the record checks that are requested of me. Paid in advance. Before you get uptight about this policy, please consider it from my perspective. These sorts of requests, while legitimate, take time out of my life. Time that I need to be spending on something that needs to be done around here, or time I could be spending on something I would like to be doing. If this sort of information is important to you, then certainly you should not mind paying me for my time, which is important to me, to look up those records and provide them for you. After all, my looking up those records is at a cost to me, so all I'm doing is passing that cost on back to the people making these sorts of requests. Bear in mind that these are simple records and data checks, and nothing extensive. I once had someone suggest that I should provide all records for the animals he purchases back through 5 generations. When I determined the actual number of records I would have to research for each and every animal, I politely declined his business.
 
Thanks Joe. Now that you posted it, I remember reading this before. I'm thinking that it would be more fun to discover the truth via breeding trials, but I may break down before then.
 
One thing I've noticed . . . and I'm not saying there's a definite link . . . but I had a clutch of possible het hypos last season ('04) that had about 50% of the clutch have a noticeable stripe down the center of the belly. I had a few het hypo's this season that displayed that as well. Not saying yours wouldn't be het for bloodred, but there's another possibility there as well. Stripe/Motley possible het could be a possibility as well.

. . . maybe it would be worth the $10! :)

D80
 
Drizzt80 said:
One thing I've noticed . . . and I'm not saying there's a definite link . . . but I had a clutch of possible het hypos last season ('04) that had about 50% of the clutch have a noticeable stripe down the center of the belly. I had a few het hypo's this season that displayed that as well. Not saying yours wouldn't be het for bloodred, but there's another possibility there as well. Stripe/Motley possible het could be a possibility as well.

. . . maybe it would be worth the $10! :)

D80

Seems like there's lots of strange stuff popping up here and there. You really have to be careful when trying to guess hets from one or two physical characteristics of a snake. I think Kathy's book says that Stripe/Motley hets do not express any alteration of the belly pattern, so I had discounted the connection between the belly stripe and S/M.
 
Im not sure I understand why you would need to pay $10 for the list of hets,
were the het's not given to you when you purchased the animals ???

All the ones I have ever purchased came with their hets listed :shrugs:
but then again I haven't purchased any of Rich's hatchlings (directly) from him either...

:wavey:

*EDIT* BTW... Those are some beautiful animals!!!
 
MastersHaven said:
Im not sure I understand why you would need to pay $10 for the list of hets,
were the het's not given to you when you purchased the animals ???

All the ones I have ever purchased came with their hets listed :shrugs:
but then again I haven't purchased any of Rich's hatchlings (directly) from him either...

:wavey:

*EDIT* BTW... Those are some beautiful animals!!!

Thanks LeeAnn. :)

I would also think that definite hets would be listed, especially for hypo-lavs het for bloodred. But I have noticed that Rich never specifies possible hets in his listings. I'm not really a cheap guy, but I wouldn't be happy spending $10 to find out that a snake is 50% possible het for something. You'd still need breeding trials to be sure anyway. :shrugs:
 
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