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I wanted to share my story....

JustineNYC

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I mentioned this in another thread, and since I spent the week with my cousin who also is affected by this I wanted to post my story cause its been on my mind.

I started smoking at the age 13, basically because everyone else did, plain and simple. Never had a good reason, other then it made me feel cool.

When I was 21, I was sitting at home and was knocked down by a sharp pain in my chest. I had been a smoker for over 7 years. The pain got so bad, I blacked out and my right arm went numb. After about an hour my father rushed me to the hospital. They did an X ray because my lung was making an awful noise and then told me I had a spontaneous pneumothorax, otherwise known as a collapsed lung. This happened on Thanksgiving of 2005. For 6 days I had to sit in the hospital bed with a hard plastic tube through my ribcage, the other end of that gets attached to suction in the wall, so basically youre a human ballon. After 6 days, they removed the tube, X rayed me and told me I could go home.

4 weeks later, I had my second collapse. The first was a 25% collapse and the second was 70%. By the time I got the ER, my hands and feet curled up and went numb and the muscles in my face began to spasm.

I had to have surgery to attached my lung to my pleura because after a 2nd collapse, chances of re-occurance are 90% and back to back lung collapses are life threatening.

They actually had to knock me out to do the 2nd tube because I was yelling and telling them Id rather die then go through that again. The tube goes into a box and into water, and when you urinate you actually blow bubbles in the water because of the hole in your lung, its AWFUL.

I found out that you do not do anything, without using your lungs. You use them to speak, eat, poo, smile, laugh, cough, sleep, EVERYTHING.

On January 10th, 2006, I had surgery on my lung. They do an abrasion surgery where they make your lung bleed, remove tissue from the chest wall and stick it to your pleura so that when both sides heal, they heal together. They also removed a piece of my lung and removed any blebs that may cause me an issue. I can never fly again, because I have a signicant risk of a pneumothorax in flight, and that is the WORST PLACE to have one. I live being aware I can have one at any moment and have approxiately 30 minutes to get to a hospital before I start to "go down" as I call it.

I also dont know if I can have children because of the added load on my lungs.

I went from being a healthy 21 year old, to being 90. I couldnt walk more then an inch at a time. I had to sleep sitting up until I healed internally because when you lay down you have an awful pulling feeling (because the inside of you is attached). I was 21 and couldnt even bathe myself. It was the most awful experience I could ever, ever imagine.

I have a cousin the same age who had her collapse 6 months before me. All they know is its called "Bleb disease" and it affects tall thin smokers, usually male.

The right side of my chest was numb for over a year, and slowly but surely the feeling has come back, although because they removed tissue, the feeling coming back is sharp pain.

A big part of the reason I relocated to NC was my lung couldnt put up with the frigid temps in New York anymore. It was like being hit in the back with a sledgehammer.

Right before I got sick I lost about 10 to 15 pounds. Its a struggle to put on weight and keep it. When you have pulmonary problems you body uses all its enegry to breathe, and when you dont get enough oxygen your body has trouble processing fat. I eat 3 meals a day, I keep my fat intake high, and also drink supplements for weight gain. And I have people say things to me all the time about it. I once had someone stop me in the street and say "Jesus Christ why dont you eat something" Ive had people yell things to me from passing cars about how I need to eat.

Its awful because you cant just explain why you are what you are right there on the spot.

I guess the reason Im posting this is just to show people, fat or skinny or whatever, we shouldnt judge and say things to people because you never know what is going on with someone in their life.


Every once in a while someone will say to me in a store "How do you stay so skinny" and Ill answer back "I have a pulmonary disease that will probably shorten my life span" with a big smile.

The other thing is, from first hand experience, take care of your lungs. They are very important, and if the slightest thing happens to them you are on your butt! They dont heal and recooperate easily.

It took me 3 years to get back to feeling like I am remotely close to being my age, and I got sick at 21. If I was older, that wouldve been the end of life as I knew it.

This was after my first collapse in November 2005...............and then now
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Id post a pic of my lung but its too graphic, my ribs are in the background.


And enjoy life! I am happy everyday that I can shower and bathe myself. No matter whats going on in your life, things could always be worse, and probably are for someone.
 
I'm sorry that you had to go through all that, and I really hope everything stays good for you and it doesn't affect the rest of your life too much. When I was 12 I was in a car accident and required abdominal surgery. I learned that you can't do anything without your stomach muscles so I am sympathetic with you on that, though I am sure mine was not nearly as bad. But as I said, good, healthy feelings your way! I'm sure you're a stronger person because of it, at least.
 
Well, Justine, what a touching story. That is so sweet. Thanks for gifting us with that. It is very personal and in the way you told it, it really reaches out and touches.
 
Justine, I'm so glad you are doing better now and sorry you had to go through such a harrowing ordeal! But may I say you are looking great!

Matt had a spontaneous pneumothorax when he was 19. He was walking down the street to his grandmother's house and collapsed on the sidewalk. He had the same surgery you described and still has pretty bad scarring from the tubes. Because of the collapsed lung, he lost a tremondous amount of weight and could never gain weight no matter what he did. When I met him he weighed about 140 pounds and was 6'3. Talk about looking rail thin! He is 30 now and is finally up to a very good weight for his height. It took him that long, though! He still has trouble with pleurisy to this day and has pain in his lung nearly everyday.
 
Justine, I'm so glad you are doing better now and sorry you had to go through such a harrowing ordeal! But may I say you are looking great!

Matt had a spontaneous pneumothorax when he was 19. He was walking down the street to his grandmother's house and collapsed on the sidewalk. He had the same surgery you described and still has pretty bad scarring from the tubes. Because of the collapsed lung, he lost a tremondous amount of weight and could never gain weight no matter what he did. When I met him he weighed about 140 pounds and was 6'3. Talk about looking rail thin! He is 30 now and is finally up to a very good weight for his height. It took him that long, though! He still has trouble with pleurisy to this day and has pain in his lung nearly everyday.

Oh boy I can certainly sympathize with that! They kept me a day longer in the hospital because my pain was so bad and the dr asked where it was, I pointed to under my breast and the dr said "Yea thats where we removed all that tissue" Why, Im not sure....they went in through the back. But to this day it hurts all the time. I cant lay on my side cause it yanks it. I notice my lung hurts around my scars alot, maybe its scar tissue. I have 3 chest tube scars, a drainage scar and the thoracotomy scar on my back.

Im glad about his weight gain that gives me hope! TY for posting! :)
 
He had the same surgery where they scarred his lung and reattached it. He said it feels like someone is trying to pull his lung out through his ribs. Doctor's have said it's pain he'll likely feel forever.

As for his weight gain, he's very happy now! He weighs right around 180 so a gain of 40 pounds in 11 years. He was actually glad to hear your story because he's had so many people pretty much call him a liar when he tried to explain that his thinness was caused by his lung and that he wasn't on crack or anything. Here's some before and now shots just to show you.

2003 so just about 5 years after the lung collapse:
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and just a few weeks ago:
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He had the same surgery where they scarred his lung and reattached it. He said it feels like someone is trying to pull his lung out through his ribs. Doctor's have said it's pain he'll likely feel forever.

As for his weight gain, he's very happy now! He weighs right around 180 so a gain of 40 pounds in 11 years. He was actually glad to hear your story because he's had so many people pretty much call him a liar when he tried to explain that his thinness was caused by his lung and that he wasn't on crack or anything. Here's some before and now shots just to show you.

2003 so just about 5 years after the lung collapse:
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and just a few weeks ago:
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Thats awesome! I know what its like, I get accused of being anorexic all the time and my friends will always say "OMG all you do is eat" LOL. I guess it just takes time with your lung working properly before things get back on track again.

It does take a long while though. Tell him I said Congrats, he looks great!

Its one thing to have a doctor tell you its normal, but its another to SEE someone else has been through the same thing. Nice to know youre not alone, but it sucks someone else is experiencing the same pain.

I do have to say, prior to surgery my lung was like a whoopie cushion, it snapped and made all kinds of noises, and the moment I woke up from surgery and took a breath, it was the first time in months it was a FULL breath.

We notice my complexion change almost right away.

The pale photo is from a X mas party in 2005, 2 weeks after my first collapse, and the other pic is 3 weeks after my surgery. Thats not make up either, you can see the color extends down past my neck.

Its truly my complexion

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Justine, thank you for sharing your story with all of us. You did an AWESOME job getting it down and making it something that all of us can relate to... even if we've never experienced that exact illness. I had several friends from High School that are no longer with us because of the smoking habit they started back then. I still remember clearly how they started and how "innocent" it was for them. Unfortunately, there was a price they paid for that decision.

As others have relayed, you do look GREAT now (OUCH!!!). Congrats on being able to get healthy again when it might have been easier to just quit. I also want to give you KUDOS for sharing your story where it might have been "your thing" and no one would learn anything from your experience. If I may ask... are you going to continue to tell your story? Perhaps to High Schools or such? Just asking... because I think that given the circumstances, your ability to overcome AND your ability to tell it, this might be your "calling".

Stay strong and keep on keeping on!
 
I imagine you were so pale because of the lack of oxygen! Something even stranger is the fact that my step-son, Jonathon, was actually born with a collapsed lung. Doctor's couldn't explain it. Our youngest constantly has bronchial infections and was even in the PICU for emergency surgery on his lungs when he was 2. They were filled with fluid. Now the doctor's explain this all away with him because he was born 10 weeks early but who knows? Could the lung problems be heriditary since that's 2 of Matt's sons that have had unexplained spontaneous lung problems?
 
I imagine you were so pale because of the lack of oxygen! Something even stranger is the fact that my step-son, Jonathon, was actually born with a collapsed lung. Doctor's couldn't explain it. Our youngest constantly has bronchial infections and was even in the PICU for emergency surgery on his lungs when he was 2. They were filled with fluid. Now the doctor's explain this all away with him because he was born 10 weeks early but who knows? Could the lung problems be heriditary since that's 2 of Matt's sons that have had unexplained spontaneous lung problems?

I think so. My 1st cousin Lindsey is my age, she is my dads, brothers daughter. So I joke with him and tell him I got my lung problems from his side of the family. I never knew you could get a collapsed lung except from like a car accident, and my cousin has it happen and then myself 6 months later?

My thoracic surgeon told me, they know its hereditary, and its usually tall thin male smokers.

They yelled at me for smoking and then pull my dad on the side and said, its hereditary. Lindsey is not a smoker, Lindsey also didnt need surgery, I did.

My mom was born with Asthma, and she also has Emphysema. So Im jinxed on both sides.

In case you need to know in the future, blebs dont show up on X rays. They show up only on CAT scans. So if they did them on the kids they could tell you if they have them, if they DO, its not to say they will bother them. They wont fix blebs until they burst.

I definitely think one underlying lung problem can make you vulnerable to others. Id be more likely to get pneumonia because I dont have normal lungs. Kids are vulnerable too, hopefully once they get a little older, they wont have anymore problems with them.
 
Justine, thank you for sharing your story with all of us. You did an AWESOME job getting it down and making it something that all of us can relate to... even if we've never experienced that exact illness. I had several friends from High School that are no longer with us because of the smoking habit they started back then. I still remember clearly how they started and how "innocent" it was for them. Unfortunately, there was a price they paid for that decision.

As others have relayed, you do look GREAT now (OUCH!!!). Congrats on being able to get healthy again when it might have been easier to just quit. I also want to give you KUDOS for sharing your story where it might have been "your thing" and no one would learn anything from your experience. If I may ask... are you going to continue to tell your story? Perhaps to High Schools or such? Just asking... because I think that given the circumstances, your ability to overcome AND your ability to tell it, this might be your "calling".

Stay strong and keep on keeping on!


I would really like to. I had my mom bring my camera to the hospital and take pics of my chest tube cause I remember thinking this is going to be what I show my children when smoking comes up. Its one thing to say, dont smoke, mommy got sick when she did, and its another to be able to show a photo of a young girl very ill with tubes in her.

I had been modeling for 2 years when this all happened to me. I was getting booked like crazy and then this happened, and then I took time off and had surgery a few weeks later....I couldnt model anymore with my scars. You lose alot when you dont take care of yourself. If I wouldve cared about what I was doing, I may have never gotten sick.

And thanks BTW!
 
I had an awful accident a few years back that was similar in scope and involved my chest cavity and breathing. Without getting into it, I was kept sedated 22 hours a day because I would start panicking, coughing, and all that and I had cracked ribs, abdominal swelling, a dislocated shoulder, sternal fracture and pleurisy. I was black, blue, purple, yellow, green and every color of the rainbow from my neck to my hips. I was black and blue for 2 years after that, no lie. My xiphoid process is a constant source of pain, to this day. Codeine, and lots of it. I was hooked up to a monitor 24/7
When I was released I thought i could walk home, and would have no problems. HA!
It took me literally 45 minutes to make it up a flight of stairs. Not a big flight of stairs, either. I was 'old' overnight. (I smiled when I read your post.)
More than a month later on my return to work after an extended vacation, I was reminded at work of the serious nature of what I had gone through. I threw up several times in the trash can at work because I couldn't get enough air to walk the 15 feet from the bathroom to my workstation. To sit on a chair and do paperwork. With no time limit.
I forgot how to make the number '4' with a pen, on paperwork I filled out once an hour, 8 hours a day for 5 years. The drugs made me forget. I lost some memory, not just the 2 weeks, but before.
I'm glad you're a fighter. If you weren't.........
Yes, I had to be sedated for 2 weeks until I could breathe without panicking.
I was fortunate to be able to avoid the bedpan, catheter or sponge baths or 'other' duties.
They would rouse me, give me drops, I would walk to the bathroom (5 feet), use the facilities, get a drink of water, walk back, answer some pain questions, get a blood-ox, they would check and fill my nebulizer and put me back into bed. I would fall asleep immediately. I would be awakened 15-20 minutes every 6 hours. Every now and then a doc would come in and check my heart and listen to my lungs. Test after test after test, poked and prodded.
Not that I relish the pain and agony of another person, but it's good to know that others have gone through similar obstacles, and overcome or at least adapted to them.
I still have nightmares and problems sleeping. I got sleeping pills because I would remember my stay at the hospital (While sleeping.), and my heart would hit 200-220 bpm. That would make me short of breath and that would make me wake up panicking and short of breath. Try to go to sleep after that. Really. 10 years later, and I still have problems sleeping. As you could understand, I don't go to the hospital. For any reason.
I hope you never have to go back there. There's a reason they call it trauma.


(EDIT) As I read this again, it looks like 'poor me' and all that.
That's not why I posted it.
You can't possibly understand how crappy this is until you have been through it.
As someone who went through a similar experience, though probably not as severe, I offer the comfort of someone who can identify with the pain and panic.
I wish nobody would have to go through this sort of pulmonary event, but if you must, it helps (I mean really helps.) to talk to somebody who has been through the ringer and came out of it face up.
I wish you the best, present and future, and hope that you don't have to go through that horse manure again. It's awful.
 
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I had an awful accident a few years back that was similar in scope and involved my chest cavity and breathing. Without getting into it, I was kept sedated 22 hours a day because I would start panicking, coughing, and all that and I had cracked ribs, abdominal swelling, a dislocated shoulder, sternal fracture and pleurisy. I was black, blue, purple, yellow, green and every color of the rainbow from my neck to my hips. I was black and blue for 2 years after that, no lie. My xiphoid process is a constant source of pain, to this day. Codeine, and lots of it. I was hooked up to a monitor 24/7
When I was released I thought i could walk home, and would have no problems. HA!
It took me literally 45 minutes to make it up a flight of stairs. Not a big flight of stairs, either. I was 'old' overnight. (I smiled when I read your post.)
More than a month later on my return to work after an extended vacation, I was reminded at work of the serious nature of what I had gone through. I threw up several times in the trash can at work because I couldn't get enough air to walk the 15 feet from the bathroom to my workstation. To sit on a chair and do paperwork. With no time limit.
I forgot how to make the number '4' with a pen, on paperwork I filled out once an hour, 8 hours a day for 5 years. The drugs made me forget. I lost some memory, not just the 2 weeks, but before.
I'm glad you're a fighter. If you weren't.........
Yes, I had to be sedated for 2 weeks until I could breathe without panicking.
I was fortunate to be able to avoid the bedpan, catheter or sponge baths or 'other' duties.
They would rouse me, give me drops, I would walk to the bathroom (5 feet), use the facilities, get a drink of water, walk back, answer some pain questions, get a blood-ox, they would check and fill my nebulizer and put me back into bed. I would fall asleep immediately. I would be awakened 15-20 minutes every 6 hours. Every now and then a doc would come in and check my heart and listen to my lungs. Test after test after test, poked and prodded.
Not that I relish the pain and agony of another person, but it's good to know that others have gone through similar obstacles, and overcome or at least adapted to them.
I still have nightmares and problems sleeping. I got sleeping pills because I would remember my stay at the hospital (While sleeping.), and my heart would hit 200-220 bpm. That would make me short of breath and that would make me wake up panicking and short of breath. Try to go to sleep after that. Really. 10 years later, and I still have problems sleeping. As you could understand, I don't go to the hospital. For any reason.
I hope you never have to go back there. There's a reason they call it trauma.


(EDIT) As I read this again, it looks like 'poor me' and all that.
That's not why I posted it.
You can't possibly understand how crappy this is until you have been through it.
As someone who went through a similar experience, though probably not as severe, I offer the comfort of someone who can identify with the pain and panic.
I wish nobody would have to go through this sort of pulmonary event, but if you must, it helps (I mean really helps.) to talk to somebody who has been through the ringer and came out of it face up.
I wish you the best, present and future, and hope that you don't have to go through that horse manure again. It's awful.

I know I couldnt possibly understand what you went through, but I just wanted to let you know, the anxiety is normal and its shared amoung people who have chronic lung collapses. Every little twitch or pain that I may not have noticed before, sends me into total body sweats, my heart pounds, and last year I even passed out. Its like, Oh god its happening again, meanwhile it can be a cough.

I have learned *sort of* to stay calm and breathe,(kind of like Lamaze) and try and diagnosed myself, because thinking something is wrong can actually make something be wrong.

I cringed at your hospital stay story. Although I was awake, I am allergic to EVERYTHING. Every pain med they gave me made me puke, after 24 hours I began to puke blood, then they had to give me something for the vomiting. Then the lady next to me in the room was Skitzophrenic (sp) and they didnt give her her meds, well she POOPS ON HERSELF, plays with it and pulls the curtain back and comes towards me. I yanked my tube out of the wall and flipped out. I had a chest tube I was suppose to be kept in a steril surgical environment. My dr flipped out and had me put in a single person room.

Hospital stays can be a nightmare cause you go for one thing and end up with 5 other symptoms that need treatment. After my surgery I got sick because I was allergic to the glue in the tape they used to tape the tube I was intubated with to my face.

From Nov 05 to Jan 06 I was hospitalized 3 times, was on Valium, Morphine, Demerol, Percocet, Percodan.....every pain drug you can imagine. Its so weird to read how your experience was when you went back to work because when I came out of the hospital, for the first 6 months I tell people now I was in a total fog. My brain would just hit the pause button. Its extremely frustrating, believe me I know.

i do believe they further away you get from your experience, the better you can deal with things. Good luck to you!
 
What a sad, but great story thanks for sharing. I had a bad case of pneumonia 2 years ago and suffered a collapsed lung as well. I stayed on a ventilator for almost a week sedated and was there another 9 days after being woken up. I have two kids and had no medical directive at the time. One of the first questions I was asked was who did I want my children to go to should I die. I was 27 years old and being asked where my kids would go it was beyond heartbreaking. My son was afraid to see and wouldn't come near me; my daughter said I couldn't die because I was the only mommy she ever ever wanted. It's been two years and I have been healthy since, but can relate to the weightloss and peoples stupid comments. I already have a hyper thyroid so putting on weight is impossible anyway, but emerging from the hospital at 92 pounds was scary. I looked like I would fall over if I so much as stood up, the chest pain was insane, and for months I couldn't even go up the stairs. It took almost a year to be back where I needed to be, but I still tire easily and they say one of my lungs has actually sank down lower than the other from the damage. You look great now by the way so keep ignoring peoples rude comments I have heard them all as well.
 
Well, Justine, what a touching story. That is so sweet. Thanks for gifting us with that. It is very personal and in the way you told it, it really reaches out and touches.


This is sooo true, Justine.

I started in school for the same reason and stop four or more years ago.

The way you tell your story... well I think you should share it with younger people with the pictures.
I also sense that you now feel relieved by "exposing" yourself to us.

You are a very lovely lady.
Thanks for sharing.
 
I really appreciate you sharing this with us and I learned several new things today.
In another thread of yours you were asking if your snake was to fat and I made a comment about your avatar being too skinny. I meant no ill will and I apologize if I offended you in any way. In my eyes you look like every other college girl in my town and (given the theme of the thread) I was just trying to be witty.
Again, thanks for sharing with us. :)
 
Wow, Justine. What a journey you've traveled. Thank you for sharing such a personal story with us. Hearing what others have gone and are going through always helps me keep things in perspective.

I hope things get nothing but better for you.
 
Ahh, it wouldn't be a hospital stay without some malpractice and some horror.
Ripping your tubes out and squaring off against poop-lady made this poor boy cringe.
They swapped out my pain meds 5 or 6 times, until they found something that worked. Codeine was great when I was being sedated, but obviously not when I wanted to be vertical. I finally got used to some of the effects of Tramadol.
I lost a LOT of weight because anything I wanted to eat, I would have to poop eventually.
Fruit juice was good. :p
Thank goodness I didn't have much of an appetite.
 
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