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Is this a stripe or a ????

Richard Holyoak

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I hope this picture is good enough to help identify weather this is a stripe or a motely/stripe.

Thanks
Richard :crazy02:
 

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Richard,

It looks like a stripped motley to me.. IMHO, on the top picture, left side, against the sweater box.. The pattern seems to creep into the middle of back, and not as straight of a line as one would expect..

Nice one though..

Regards.. Tim of T and J
 
it looks like there is a stripe there, but i don't know if that means it is one. i do know that it is a very nice one though.........killer red. :cheers:
 
Okies, I digress.. The small section got me though..

For Serp:..... You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Serpwidgets again.

:-offtopic Would this qualify for a sunlog??? This is sort of a serious question!


Regards.. Tim of T and J
 
Stripe. Look at the width of the center stripe compared to the side stripes. Not a very clean stripe due to the weird markings, but I've hatched out similar-looking stripes from completely normal-looking stripe parents.

-Kat
 
Lets not forget ,that the first stripes started out cubed.That 2nd pic looked to me like a remnant of what a cube looks like vs. a motley/stripe pattern .Just my opinion.My vote is for Stripe. :shrugs:
 
Stripe.
Here's why:
The stripe is wider than it would be in a motley/stripe.
The breakup of stripes near the anterior portion of the snake is due to a "cubing" effect, though the cubes are not fully expressed here.
Stripes are pretty variable, but all the true stripes' center stripes are a certain width (about twice as wide as a striped/motley's stipe.
If this makes no sense to you, do a search for a couple of really good threads on just this subject .
 
rad2217 said:
Lets not forget ,that the first stripes started out cubed.That 2nd pic looked to me like a remnant of what a cube looks like vs. a motley/stripe pattern .Just my opinion.My vote is for Stripe. :shrugs:
this is news to me I allways thought that stripes came first and then cubed came out of the striped line. Not saying you are wrong but this I know for a fact that stripes hit the market first I did not hear of the cubed phase untill a few years latter
 
I always believed that a stripe was not a perfect stripe at first,and that through selective breeding it became what we know and love as a stripe.
I also believe that on the other hand the cool looking conections on the not so perfect stripes can and have been selectively bred to make cubes.This makes sense to me.Who Knows, I could be wrong?But I don't think so :poke:
 
rad2217 said:
I always believed that a stripe was not a perfect stripe at first,and that through selective breeding it became what we know and love as a stripe.
I also believe that on the other hand the cool looking conections on the not so perfect stripes can and have been selectively bred to make cubes.This makes sense to me.Who Knows, I could be wrong?But I don't think so :poke:

No striped like motley has a blotched and stripe phase. I have a amel corn that is both cubed and striped. In the past from striped het pr I produced cubed , stripe , and cubed and striped on the same snake
 
I agree with Vinman, the cube is an unknown at the moment & discussions & test breedings are ongoing which may prove it to be a modifying gene amongst other theories. I woud doubt that it is a selectively bred stripe as i've yet to come across a breeder who has this as a project. A good source of information is Joe Pierces' 'SnakesAlive' forum under the thread 'What is a cube'........ :)
 
bribrian, I have seen in the past here in the states where people are breeding cubed to cubed I know that the next time I produced corns with a totaly cubed pattren I'm gona keep them and breed them to eachother
 
I know that some guys over there like joe pierce are breeding cubed x cubed & stripe x cubed but i've never heard of anyone starting with partial stripes & making cubes like rad2217 said.... :shrugs:
In fact i've some on their way to me now from Joe..... :crazy02:
 
bribrian said:
i've never heard of anyone starting with partial stripes & making cubes like rad2217 said.... :shrugs:
In fact i've some on their way to me now from Joe..... :crazy02:
100% right you can breed partial stripes and get cubed but that is not how this morph was created. They just pop up from the stripe line I even hatched some inthe past that had a ladder look to them. They had stripes with cube's inbeetween the stripes
 
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