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It's frustrating when...

Roy Munson

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...a snake accepts f/t for six feedings, sheds, then doesn't want anything to do with them. My emoryi male is pulling this stunt. After his first shed with me on 1/25, he refused every f/t I gave him. On 1/30 and 2/8 I caved in, and gave him a live hopper for each feeding, and he pounced on them. He's at a great weight for an '05, so I then decided to play a waiting game with him. Today's refusal (brained, sliced, diced, squished, dry-thawed, filthy-rodent-bedding-rolled, etc.) was 18 days since his last successful feeding, so I appeased him again, and he scarfed down two live hoppers in record time.

It's not that big of a deal, but I just don't get it. What goes on in those pea-brains? :shrugs:
 
I had a few corns do that exact same thing, oddly enough they refused thawed on the same day. One of them was an '04 hatchling ( I waited a month before giving in to live), who just by chance when I had a left over thawed hopped threw it in with her and she suddenly took it after about 5 months of only taking live. The only difference was that I was just feeding her more due to having leftover live mice, which perhaps sparked her appitite back up.

The other one was an adult who took back onto thawed once out of brumation. Its all about finding out what works for them.
 
Lennycorn said:
:shrugs: I don't know.... He like to watch how high you can jump??? :sidestep:

That's the downside of keeping these snakes. You think a cat's independent? The snake is ALWAYS the boss. I fantasized about winning this battle of wills... :awcrap:
 
DaemoNox said:
The only way you can win is not to beat them, but to join them.

You've sure got it!

Snake: It's been eighteen days, pal, you think this f/t looks any better to me now?

Keeper: But you just took six of them in a row, before that shed?

Snake: Yeah, but their appeal is becoming more selective. I know you've got a freezer-full of those. What else you got?

Keeper: Well, I don't have anything else. How long are you willing to hold out?

Snake: Hey, I could go three months, champ. How long can you go, that's the question... knowing you're starving your iddy biddy emoryi to death?

Keeper: But I know you won't be starving.

Snake: Yeah, but I won't be growin' either, will I EINSTEIN?

Keeper: All right, all right! Here's your $%&*(%@ live hopper!

Snake: We could've been doin' this eighteen days ago... CHUMP! (Chomp)
 
Thats pretty much the exact same thing that happened with my '04 (except we didnt argue with each other), she refused to eat during a shed and afterwards refusing anything but live. I did have some luck with scenting a washed thawed with a live and got her to the point of taking an unscented after eating a live, but she shed again and went back to where she began.

It is useless to try and control snake's behavior like with cats and dogs, and it really is so much less stressfull when you just go along with it while trying to figure them out.
 
you may not think this way...........but it is so good for me to know more experienced keepers have feeding problems too
 
diamondlil said:
you may not think this way...........but it is so good for me to know more experienced keepers have feeding problems too

Glad to be of comfort to you. :grin01: I should clarify that this is about the least troubling of all feeding problems. I mean, it's a miracle to me that so many accept f/t. How many fresh scavenging opportunities is a wild corn presented with? I guess I should be satisfied with a 96+% f/t rate. :shrugs:
 
whoops, was a bit drunk when I typed that last night :grin01: , but hadn't thought about how unnatural the diet I want the snakes to eat is, puts a new perspective on it. Lil probably wondering what the heck she's supposed to do with a dead mouse :shrugs:
 
I've had adults do that same damn thing, Dean. Funny that one of them was an emoryi, too. He had been eating f/t for 6 months or more (as an adult) then I moved him from an aquarium to a tub and he stopped eating. It took more than a month for me to break down and buy him a live mouse. He ate live exclusively for another five months and now is back on f/t. ????? What gives? The other was my blizzard girl. At 13, I know she's been eating f/t for YEARS. Then over the summer she wanted live. Now I see her war wounds from taking down mice and I decided to hold out and make her go back to f/t. Took two weeks. ????? Those are the only two I've had issues with. Both are on f/t now.
 
dionythicus said:
I've had adults do that same damn thing, Dean. Funny that one of them was an emoryi, too. He had been eating f/t for 6 months or more (as an adult) then I moved him from an aquarium to a tub and he stopped eating. It took more than a month for me to break down and buy him a live mouse. He ate live exclusively for another five months and now is back on f/t. ????? What gives? The other was my blizzard girl. At 13, I know she's been eating f/t for YEARS. Then over the summer she wanted live. Now I see her war wounds from taking down mice and I decided to hold out and make her go back to f/t. Took two weeks. ????? Those are the only two I've had issues with. Both are on f/t now.

My '05 blizzard female has been my most troublesome in this area. The first meal of her life was live, the next 7 or 8 were f/t, she shed, and then wouldn't touch an f/t for 5-6 months. I got her going on dry-thawed f/t again, and now she takes the soggy ones without a problem, even after her last 2 sheds. :shrugs:
 
Roy Munson said:
Snake: It's been eighteen days, pal, you think this f/t looks any better to me now?

Keeper: But you just took six of them in a row, before that shed?

Snake: Yeah, but their appeal is becoming more selective. I know you've got a freezer-full of those. What else you got?

Keeper: Well, I don't have anything else. How long are you willing to hold out?

Snake: Hey, I could go three months, champ. How long can you go, that's the question... knowing you're starving your iddy biddy emoryi to death?

Keeper: But I know you won't be starving.

Snake: Yeah, but I won't be growin' either, will I EINSTEIN?

Keeper: All right, all right! Here's your $%&*(%@ live hopper!

Snake: We could've been doin' this eighteen days ago... CHUMP! (Chomp)
This is great stuff, brilliant! I have an idea for a sitcom,
"Leroy and Roy" :roflmao:
Seriously, I would have similar frustration if mine started refusing live :grin01:
 
mbdorfer said:
This is great stuff, brilliant! I have an idea for a sitcom,
"Leroy and Roy" :roflmao:
Seriously, I would have similar frustration if mine started refusing live :grin01:

Hah! "One of these days Leroy... POW!"
 
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