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My bad feeders UPDATE

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snakes4ever

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:wavey: Hello everyone :wavey:​

Well... :shrugs: My 18 baby's are living great and I am learning that it takes quite good recording habits to keep records of when the boxes/snakes are cleaned, fed, water changed, defecated, and etc... etc... etc. I had 18 snakes but now because I was showing a friend some the the non eaters, and was not paying better attention to how I was putting the lids on the containers. One of the containers that was stacked on the very top must have not been closed enough and now I am down to :sidestep: 17 snakes.

And to this date I still have 7 baby's that are not eating. I have watched them while being very still and they move up to the pinkie real slow and get right up on it. But then as soon as the pinkie moves, they flinch and just crawl over it or start moving away. I think as of today it has been 30 days since they were born and since they defecated there yoke sack, that they may have eaten.

I have noticed that some of them have defecated some white looking poop that I could have sworn I recorded them doing about a week or 2 ago.

I have done everything I can think of. From not bothering them and then putting a live then dead pinkie with them, until the pinkie starts stinking. I have put some in little deli cups with live and then dead pinky's and they just stay coiled up against the side walls.

The next thing I may have to do is force feed them... But I just hate the thought that I may hurt them.

Worst case scenario is that I get to watch how my 3 year old California King Snake deals with and eats other small snakes. I know it sounds mean :twoguns: but we all know that nature is not nice, and in the wild they eat rattle snakes. Which by the way, My friends friend brought me a young rattle snake with 3 small rattle beads and we put it in my cage and like the rumor goes. Kings cant be effected by there venom. He has a scar on some scales but after being in hiding for a good week, he is still just as healthy as he was before we introduced them to eachother.

:-offtopic Anyone out there that kills a kingsnake is doing everyone of us harm. They help controle... not only rats and mice but help get rid of rattle snakes. I have even heard that in some parts of the world they have been shipped and released just for that reason.
 
snakes4ever said:
:-offtopic Anyone out there that kills a kingsnake is doing everyone of us harm. They help controle... not only rats and mice but help get rid of rattle snakes. I have even heard that in some parts of the world they have been shipped and released just for that reason.
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Humans are doing a good enough job eradicating rattlesnakes without the kings' help. Why do we want to get rid of rattlesnakes? Are they lower on the "life-value" scale than corns or fluffy bunnies?
 
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Have you tried braining the pinks?? That got 2 of my non feeders to eat. I only have one baby left that isn't eating from my small 4 baby early June clutch. I'm gonna try some chicken broth on the pinkies next.
 
another thing you could try is Lizard scenting.

I had tried everything with one of my babies and even took him to my friend to try to force feed him ( I just couldn't do it) my friend told me that we should try the lizard scenting before resorting to force feeding, so we scented the pinkie with no avail....
as a pre-last resort we just stuck the gecko in there and *snap* he coiled it up and swallowed it right down...

after that, I have scented his pinkies for the last couple of feedings and he ate them with no problems... all of that and 43 days of not eating... I had worried myself sick over that one little baby and all it took was a $5 Gecko to get him eating...

I know alot of folks don't like going lizard but I just needed to know he would eat... after that I can work with the eating*what* part...
 
We tried scenting with an anole.. We left the pinkie in the same quarters as an anole for few hours. We put the pink and corn into a deli cup and within a half an hour ( left the snake and mouse in a very low lighted area of the house ) the corn finally consumed the first meal. That was two weeks ago.. We tried feeding last week and no avail, we tried last night with an unscented live, day old, pinkie in the deli cup. BOOM, the little one took within 5 to 10 mins.. Now we need to wait for the third feeding.. !

Regards..
 
Back again and just wanted to update everyone since my last post. Out of all the baby's one never ate and endid up dieing (let it loos). and one of the baby's would only eat if I enhanced the cent of the pinky... If you know what I meen.


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I had 3 different pet stores ordering me only the newest pinky mice each week they got them in. Towards the end of this baby corn being so high matinance he would eat one part of the baby and leave the bigger half to rot. Then I found he was eating both halfs. Then as time whent on and he was eating both halfs I tryed to just poke a hole in the head of the pinky and for about a mont that was the only way he would eat. Then I started geting tired of having to do this, so I did not feed him for 2-3 weeks and when I put a "full unharmed newborn pinky" in his container. sure enough.... HE LEARNED HOW TO EAT IT.

And now I have saved the 2 baby's that almost look like they have grey in there paterns. And just my luck.... One of them just had to have a atitude every time I clean his cage. I hope he calms down as he gets older. The stubern eater has yhet to strike at me. Go figure. :) Now I am just watching the calinder as the parents have yhet to breed. damn them hehehehe
 
I've had complete success with tuna scenting pinkies. I turned two live feeders into f/t feeders by dipping the pinks' heads in tuna water (right from the can) and leaving them in the tub with the snake. Now they are aggressive feeders on f/t.
 
dionythicus said:
I've had complete success with tuna scenting pinkies. I turned two live feeders into f/t feeders by dipping the pinks' heads in tuna water (right from the can) and leaving them in the tub with the snake. Now they are aggressive feeders on f/t.
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what do you meen by "f/t" ?
 
Roy Munson said:
Humans are doing a good enough job eradicating rattlesnakes without the kings' help. Why do we want to get rid of rattlesnakes? Are they lower on the "life-value" scale than corns or fluffy bunnies?
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I'm having trouble understanding what is wrong with Rattle Snakes too!!!
we may not want to touch them unless you really know what your doing but hey, they are just as cute as my bunny rabbit and corns! :)

Good luck with the non-feeders everyone, i know what a pain it is

Isobel
 
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