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my snake is like trying to throw up white clear stuff

brunettecutie587

brunettecutie587

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hey does anyone know why a snake would throw up the mice he ate a day before? mine threw it up today and he is like trying to throw up this white clear stuff that looks like spit almost...im kinda worried, i turned the light off last night because in this book it said not to have the light and the heating pad both on constantly...so maybe thats it?
 
My snakes that eat adult mice do that. They are merely regurging the fir from the mouse most of the time because they can't digest it and fir is very hard to pass through their intestines. Just keep an eye on it and make sure it isn't a regurged mouse.
 
Arcanefate said:
My snakes that eat adult mice do that. They are merely regurging the fir from the mouse most of the time because they can't digest it and fir is very hard to pass through their intestines. Just keep an eye on it and make sure it isn't a regurged mouse.
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This is NOT a normal thing. And the phrase "merely regurging" is oxymoronical. It is true that the fur is not digested; however, it usually passes through the digestive tract and out of the cloaca.
 
Arcanefate said:
My snakes that eat adult mice do that. They are merely regurging the fir from the mouse most of the time because they can't digest it and fir is very hard to pass through their intestines. Just keep an eye on it and make sure it isn't a regurged mouse.
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Snakes do not regurgitate fur. This isn't like that african egg eating snake that that regurges crushed shell in a nice little package. The original poster said the snake was regurging a spit like substate---and the fact that he just fed a mouse yesterday would indicate that it's impossible for the mouse to be digested enough to where the snake could possibly regurge the fur.

As Dean said, fur is crapped out---not regugitated. If your snake is regurgitating 'fur', I'd bring it to the vet and have that looked that. That is definitely not normal!
 
Ditto to what Roy and Joe said. I 100% concur. No regurgitation should be taken lightly and is a sign that there is some type of healthy or husbandry problem present with the animal.

brunettecutie587, how long have you had this snake and how old is it? What are the temps it is being kept at? If we start with those questions maybe we can figure out the cause for your regurge.
 
Ditto to what the others have said. NO regurgitation in corns is normal. They do not regurgitate fur, and especially not "fir" since that is a tree. Regurging is a serious health issue, and if not properly treated, and the causes corrected, the snake will die.
 
My mistake then.
My vet did say some snakes can regurgitate fur if they have a problem passing it. I have been told to give Nude mice, but finding them around here is very hard. My two snakes that regurgitate have already been diagnosed as completely healthy otherwise.

I am sorry if no-one else understands that though this is not normal, it is possible. I am merely giving that suggestion. Not diagnosing his snake myself.

Once again, I am sorry if my post to this thread is not informative.
 
i've had him two weeks maybe a little more...this is the first time i've fed him, and i highly doubt its fur hes throwing up, it was the mouse because it was the same size as the one he ate, im not sure how old he is the pet store didnt tell us, hes 5 feet and the pet store guy told us hes gonna be getting bigger, and im not sure what the temp is, i was supposed to get it with the cage and everything but didnt im gonna get one this weekend...hes got the light above his cage on and hes got the heat pad under the cage so its pretty warm. hes acting fine now though and he did poop i noticed (sorry dont know any other nicer way to put it lol)
 
If he's five feet long already, it's not likely that he will get much bigger. Five feet is on the high end for corns already.

If he is too warm, it will also cause regurgitation. And with both a light and an unregulated heat pad there is a good possibility that he is way too warm. Don't feed him again until you can get a proper setup, which includes a digital thermometer with a probe and a thermostat or rheostat. After a regurge, you need to wait at least 10 days before trying to feed him again anyway. Get his temps regulated. He should have a cool side with temps around 70-75, and a warm side with temps around 80-85. Then give him a few days to settle in before trying to feed him again.

arcanefate said:
I am sorry if no-one else understands that though this is not normal, it is possible
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It may be possible, but it is highly unlikely. As stated before, snakes have no problem passing fur throught their intestine.

arcanefate said:
They are merely regurging the fir from the mouse most of the time because they can't digest it and fir is very hard to pass through their intestines.
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Sounds like a diagnosis to me. At the very least, bad info.

arcanefate said:
My two snakes that regurgitate have already been diagnosed as completely healthy otherwise.
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If your snakes regurge, they are not perfectly healthy. As I said before, regurging is a serious health issue which can cost the snake its life if not corrected.
 
yea im gonna get that at the store this weekend, he has a 40 gallon tank and the heating stuff is only on one side so the other side should be okay...hes always on the warm side though, and i hope its nothing bad because i dont know how much it'd cost for the vet, :( and i've read that corns can get up to 6, but i've also read they only get 4 feet so ehh i dont know, hes eating mice fuzzies right now by the way.
 
A 5 foot cornsnake should NOT be eating fuzzies.

I really hate to be 'mean' here, but it is very obvious that you did minimal research before you got this snake.

My suggestion would be that in the next 10 days, you leave the snake alone, properly setup it's viv, and do a lot of reading. Kathy Love's book would be a good place to start.

www.cornutopia.com
 
brunettecutie587 said:
hey does anyone know why a snake would throw up the mice he ate a day before? mine threw it up today and he is like trying to throw up this white clear stuff that looks like spit almost...im kinda worried, i turned the light off last night because in this book it said not to have the light and the heating pad both on constantly...so maybe thats it?
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Corn snake can regurgitate for several reasons, poof quality of feeder mice, stress, improper husbandry and so on.

So far I gather that two weeks ago you bought a five foot corn, unknown age, from a pet store and it is housed in a forty gallon tank with heating "stuff". And last night you turn the light off cause the "book" said not to have both light and heating on constantly.

First, I would stop feeding the snake.

Then I would check the husbandry, check the temps of the Viv. You need a warm side and a cool side. Using a thermometer with a probe to read the temps. Place probe above the uth for the warm side. They should be 80-85 degrees and the cool side 70-75 degrees. The humidity should be 40-50%, using a hydrometer to read that.

Then check the type of mice your feeding . Are they frozen/thaw mice or live.
If f/t mice are you properly defrosting them?? If live where are you getting them and what size was the snake feeding before you got him.

When you bought the snake did you let him "settle in" is new home be for handling him. Do you have hide for him and what type of bedding do you have? What book are you referring to to help you.

While you are doing the above I would follow the steps stated by Kathy Love on treating regurges.

http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28342


Good Luck :cheers:
 
it was one of the kathy love's books, it just said not to have both on constantly...and i fed him frozen, i let them unfreeze then heated them up for a couple of seconds and made sure it wasnt too hot or too cold just right then i let it sit for abit...i got them from petco by the way, and yes i let him settle in for a week before i held him...yes he has a hide out
 
brunettecutie587 said:
it was one of the kathy love's books, it just said not to have both on constantly...and i fed him frozen, i let them unfreeze then heated them up for a couple of seconds and made sure it wasnt too hot or too cold just right then i let it sit for abit...i got them from petco by the way, and yes i let him settle in for a week before i held him...yes he has a hide out
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OK, Petco f/t mice, hummmm that worries me a bit, but you need to warm up more than a few seconds, NOT in a microwave. (Just a warning.)
I place my in a baggie (if you prefer) then in a cup fill with hot tap water, for about five minutes. Making sure the mouse is warm to the touch. they way your doing it could be the cause.
What are the Viv temps? Corns like and sometimes need "belly" heat to help with digestion.
And is it Kathy love new book?? I haven't read the old one to see if she has the steps for regurges in there.
Also. being a five foot snake from a pet store. It could be a old sick snake. I'm just quessing here. What type of quality pet store way it.?
 
yea i know but petco is pretty close to me thats why i get them there, ah yes im gonna try that with the mice placing them in a baggy and under warm water i read that from kathy's book, and yes i have her new one...and im not sure of the temp right now, i dont have anything in there to tell me i need to buy something this weekend. hes in a 40 gallon tank though and hes got the light above his cage and the heat pad under it both on the same side...i dont know, hes been at the pet store awhile and then they sent him to another pet store, but we went and got him, they said hes on fuzzies
 
OK, Just get a thermometer with a probe. It a wire with a piece of metal on the end connected to the thermometer. It's basically an indoor/outdoor, found mostly anywhere but pet store have them too sometimes.
Read through Kathy's book again. Basic husbandry and treatment for regurges.
It's hard to tell what your snake did (throw-up) without being there. Regurges stink to high heaven so I been told. but i would still treat this like one. In Kathy book she also stated about using Nuticbac (sp??) and grapefruit seed extract to help with illnesses. Keep note of that. Your snake might need to see a Vet. Or at least if this continues a feces test.

Good luck and keep us posted.
 
He should be eating adult mice at that size. His food size should be 1.5 times bigger than his girth. If there is no lump in him after you feed him, then its too small.
:-offtopic Petco seems to have a bad problem with telling people to feed snakes prey items that are way too small for them! Just yesterday, a person brought in a Ball Python they got from there and they told him to feed it frozen pinkies. This snake can easily eat small adult mice. Oh, and they forgot to mention to the guy to heat the pinkies. Yes, they guy should have done more research(thats why he was at my store), but the seller was completely irresponsible in their sale that time.
 
Always on warm side....

do you have hides for your snake on both the warm and the cool side? if there is only one hide and it is on the warm side then this is where your snake will spend the majority of its time.
 
Regurgitating is NOT normal whether it be fur or anything else! It shows that something is not right, either the set up, temps or prey.
I would not believe everything they tell you in petstores especially in big stores, most of them do not know what they are talking about or will not give full information.

@ Arcanefate: you really need a new vet, yours doesn't sound like he knows what he is talking about! Here is a link where you can find a Vet in your area who is specialised in exotic pets:
http://www.herpvetconnection.com/

I agree about you leaning more about caring for your Corn. It is very important to do research before getting your pet.

Here is a link to one of Lennycorn's post with loads of thread which you should read:
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showpost.php?p=268385&postcount=3
 
jenkva said:
@ Arcanefate: you really need a new vet, yours doesn't sound like he knows what he is talking about! Here is a link where you can find a Vet in your area who is specialised in exotic pets:
http://www.herpvetconnection.com/
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My Vet is on that list under my state and W. I do not want him to get bad business because of my post so I will not state more than that. He just 2 weeks ago treated my Tegu and checked up on my gravid females and I can say he is great.
Previous to his business he was a zoo vet. He also belongs to the Herpetology Society in MA, which consists of science Professors, Vets, Herpetoculturists, and Conservationists.

But I guess his experience isn't enough with anyone on here to justify him as a good Veterinarian.
 
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