flow annello
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i need help my corn snake wa bitten by a mouse and it seems to have little blood scales on the top part of the body what shouuld i do please help
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my snake was bitten by the mouse
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BoidKeeper
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You should take it to the vet and stop feeding live food. It may be nothing but why take a chance. Corns take frozen thawed food with out a problem so should switch to make sure this never happens again. Even feeding fresh killed or stuned is better then live. Stuned or dead mice can't bit back.
Good luck,
Trevor
Good luck,
Trevor
CowBoyWay
Cocked & Unlocked member
Feeding live...
Is an accident waiting to happen...
I have no idea as to your experience with reptiles so a Reptile specialist veterinarian is your best bet.
http://www.arav.org/USMembers.htm
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http://www.anapsid.org/vets/
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http://www.herpvetconnection.com/
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http://www.proexotics.com/FAQ_answers_Why_do_you_suggest_feeding_thawed.html
A possible "safe" solution to your problem might be to give your snake a "bath" with ten drops of Grapefruit seed extract ("health food" stores) to a gallon of water.
It will help to safely disinfect the wound and a dab of Triple antibiotic ointment will probably be helpful if a veterinarians services are not available to you.
Use newspaper or paper towels for your substrate while treating as shavings will "cling" to the anti-biotic salve.
There are other, possibly better methods, the ones that Vet would probably use, but in the interest of simplicity, I offer this as a "better than doing nothing" approach for the others who who will search this site in the future.
Many people "get away" with feeding live up until that "fateful day" arrives.
Is an accident waiting to happen...
I have no idea as to your experience with reptiles so a Reptile specialist veterinarian is your best bet.
http://www.arav.org/USMembers.htm
&
http://www.anapsid.org/vets/
&
http://www.herpvetconnection.com/
+
http://www.proexotics.com/FAQ_answers_Why_do_you_suggest_feeding_thawed.html
A possible "safe" solution to your problem might be to give your snake a "bath" with ten drops of Grapefruit seed extract ("health food" stores) to a gallon of water.
It will help to safely disinfect the wound and a dab of Triple antibiotic ointment will probably be helpful if a veterinarians services are not available to you.
Use newspaper or paper towels for your substrate while treating as shavings will "cling" to the anti-biotic salve.
There are other, possibly better methods, the ones that Vet would probably use, but in the interest of simplicity, I offer this as a "better than doing nothing" approach for the others who who will search this site in the future.
Many people "get away" with feeding live up until that "fateful day" arrives.
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jakethesnake001
New member
Why risk your corns health???
Hey kevo26, you have a ball python eh??? I already have i corn, and another on the way, maybe even 2. I am also contemplating between a king snake, or ball python. The guy at the pet store told me that ball's are only active for only about 2 hours a day. Is this true? Do you beleive that ball's are great snakes for pets???
Hey kevo26, you have a ball python eh??? I already have i corn, and another on the way, maybe even 2. I am also contemplating between a king snake, or ball python. The guy at the pet store told me that ball's are only active for only about 2 hours a day. Is this true? Do you beleive that ball's are great snakes for pets???
CowBoyWay
Cocked & Unlocked member
Besides the cross transmission of internal parasites of unfrozen prey...
Rodent attack is a reality...
Vicious creatures when feeling threatened
Fredric L. Frye, DVM
The following text and photos are from Frye's chapter on pathologic conditions in his Reptiles: An Atlas of Diseases and Treatments (TFH Publications, Neptune City, NJ, 1992, pp. 159, 168)
"Mice, rats, hamsters... all have sharp incisors and are far more intelligent than snakes. Eventually, these animals become hungry and frantic. If given the opportunity to do so, they may attack their erstwhile predators.
.....I have often examined snakes (usually South American boa constrictors) that have been attacked by their intended prey.
The resultant trauma and soft tissue losses have been massive.
In some cases, the periosteum and even bone itself are gnawed away by the rodent.
Some of the most devastating rodent bites have in snakes that had bitten and begun to constrict (or at least hold) their squirming prey, then lost control of the rodent.
The prey then attacked the predator's head or body, eyes, rostrums (including the external nares), and tongues or parts of the lingual sheath.
"Because most snakes are not only sight-feeders, but also employ olefaction in their selection of prey, the loss of the tongue is especially serious.
When the tongue sheath has been damaged, the affected tissues, unfortunately, tend to form dense and proliferative fibrous scar tissue, which often incarcerates the tongue within its sheath."
http://www.anapsid.org/ratbites.html
I have heard some wild tales of people who thought that they were just going to reach in to correct things,
if the rodent started misbehaving, their is probably some first person accounts on how thats worked out for people around here i.e.
remember the time all hell broke loose...mice biting snake, snake biting you, mice now biting you also, the full gamut of interchangible variations of these all too common "tales of woe" , (according to various veterinary sites)...
"Murphys law" I think applies here,
"whatever can go wrong , will, and at the worst possible moment."
A little too much excitement/ commotion for me.
Some people seem to really enjoy watching "the Kill", that was what attracted them to the "hobby".
Makes you wonder what their hobby is???
Different strokes for different folks and all that, but their are too many logical, superior arguments in regards to choosing fresh, humanely dispatched, Frozen/ thawed rodents as an exclusive prey source.
The efficient killing of the probable on board parasites is another shining star reason to serve thawed. imho.
Rodent attack is a reality...
Vicious creatures when feeling threatened
Fredric L. Frye, DVM
The following text and photos are from Frye's chapter on pathologic conditions in his Reptiles: An Atlas of Diseases and Treatments (TFH Publications, Neptune City, NJ, 1992, pp. 159, 168)
"Mice, rats, hamsters... all have sharp incisors and are far more intelligent than snakes. Eventually, these animals become hungry and frantic. If given the opportunity to do so, they may attack their erstwhile predators.
.....I have often examined snakes (usually South American boa constrictors) that have been attacked by their intended prey.
The resultant trauma and soft tissue losses have been massive.
In some cases, the periosteum and even bone itself are gnawed away by the rodent.
Some of the most devastating rodent bites have in snakes that had bitten and begun to constrict (or at least hold) their squirming prey, then lost control of the rodent.
The prey then attacked the predator's head or body, eyes, rostrums (including the external nares), and tongues or parts of the lingual sheath.
"Because most snakes are not only sight-feeders, but also employ olefaction in their selection of prey, the loss of the tongue is especially serious.
When the tongue sheath has been damaged, the affected tissues, unfortunately, tend to form dense and proliferative fibrous scar tissue, which often incarcerates the tongue within its sheath."
http://www.anapsid.org/ratbites.html
I have heard some wild tales of people who thought that they were just going to reach in to correct things,
if the rodent started misbehaving, their is probably some first person accounts on how thats worked out for people around here i.e.
remember the time all hell broke loose...mice biting snake, snake biting you, mice now biting you also, the full gamut of interchangible variations of these all too common "tales of woe" , (according to various veterinary sites)...
"Murphys law" I think applies here,
"whatever can go wrong , will, and at the worst possible moment."
A little too much excitement/ commotion for me.
Some people seem to really enjoy watching "the Kill", that was what attracted them to the "hobby".
Makes you wonder what their hobby is???
Different strokes for different folks and all that, but their are too many logical, superior arguments in regards to choosing fresh, humanely dispatched, Frozen/ thawed rodents as an exclusive prey source.
The efficient killing of the probable on board parasites is another shining star reason to serve thawed. imho.
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FLOW
make your own decision about feeding live or dead. many people here can be very judgemental on this subject, but let me voice my opinion.
If you do choose to feed live, its better to feed a couple smaller mice than one big one - definitely no bigger than the diameter of your snake. just because they can 'handle' it doesnt mean its safe - I feel smaller feeders can reduce the chance of injury.
Nobody can know every circumstance where one is better than another and your situation is your business. I fed live for 13 years without one injury and the only reason I feed frozen is for convienience due to the numbers I keep.
make your own decision about feeding live or dead. many people here can be very judgemental on this subject, but let me voice my opinion.
If you do choose to feed live, its better to feed a couple smaller mice than one big one - definitely no bigger than the diameter of your snake. just because they can 'handle' it doesnt mean its safe - I feel smaller feeders can reduce the chance of injury.
Nobody can know every circumstance where one is better than another and your situation is your business. I fed live for 13 years without one injury and the only reason I feed frozen is for convienience due to the numbers I keep.
hello
how are you guys,,anyway
i have on picky eater,,,,normal cornsnake
i feed him live
he used to eat thawed 5 months ago and now he stopped
im telling you guys,,i tried every trick in the book to get him to eat thawed and he wont.
everyone!!!
so im just wondering ,did anyone create a new method?
how are you guys,,anyway
i have on picky eater,,,,normal cornsnake
i feed him live
he used to eat thawed 5 months ago and now he stopped
im telling you guys,,i tried every trick in the book to get him to eat thawed and he wont.
everyone!!!
so im just wondering ,did anyone create a new method?
CowBoyWay
Cocked & Unlocked member
I've started a new thread titled...
"Techniques used to convert from live feeder mice to Frozen/ thawed."
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6005
"Techniques used to convert from live feeder mice to Frozen/ thawed."
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6005