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New owner saying Hi and Sharing Pics

Shramana

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Hey everyone! My name is Cam I'm a guy a little over a year out of college, and I just got a new Blizzard corn on Monday. He was an impulse purchase at Petsmart. I had originally gone to get a cat, but one of my roommates informed me he was allergic via text message when I was driving there, so I had to find something else. Though the purchase was a spontaneous one, Shady (as in Slim Shady) immediately became a very important part of my life. Whilst doing research, I stumbled across this website when researching my new friend and it has been an invaluable source of information. Seeing as I want to be an involved and good snake owner, I decided to join the community. In less than a week I have gone from not even thinking about snakes at all, to being unable to stop reading about corn snakes, and watching videos of corn snakes. Seriously, I'm into it man, way into it!

Shady seems to be acclimating well to his new home. When I picked him up, I purchased a Zilla-brand reptile starter kit, with at 20-gallon tank, substrate, hide, water dish, and heat lamps. For the first 3 days, he didn't come out from under the water dish, which was made to look like a rock and had a large space underneath it. He would wrap himself around the lip of the dish's base and stay in it even when I picked it up to change his water! He had had plastic plants in his viv at the pet store, so I went back and bought some forest-y decorations, as well as a new water dish he couldn't hang onto (i didn't want to keep having to remove him from a safe location and stressing him out). As soon as I put the new decor in, he became much less nervous, and crawled all around exploring and smelling everywhere for about an hour (at a relaxed pace, I don't think he was freaking out or anything) he climbed on all his climbing stuff. After reading this site early on, i soon discovered the lamps were the wrong heat source for a corn, and my UTH and hydrofarm thermostat (as recommended so often on this site) arrived and were installed yesterday. He seems even more comfortable without the heat lamp beaming in his face all the time. He's not super-shy, I think he just naps a lot. If you hover over his viv, he might slowly crawl into one of his hides. I think this might be because his viv in the pet store was elevated to about eye-level, and so he associates people over his viv with being held by strangers. However, if you sit and look through the side of the viv he doesn't seem bothered at all. If he starts coming out of his hide and someone stands over his viv, he sometimes retracts into his hide very slowly and uniformly without changing the shape of the part of the body that's exposed, you can almost hear the slide-whistle sound effect.

Anyway, enough talking, here's some showing:

Here's Shady wrapped around his palm frond, he loves climbing through it, and he slept like this for several hours on this occasion. I think he looks like a little wad of gum.

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And here's his Viv. The starter kit I got just came with the substrate, the old dish, and the rock hide in the back right corner. It left way too much open space in the 20gallon, so I filled it in a bit for him. The sticky-thermometer in the back right is just being used to keep track of the humidity, the wires for the probes for the thermostat and thermometer can be seen on the left.

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Anyway, just excited and wanted to share. Thanks for the indulgence, I hope to get to know everyone better and am very happy to find such a great site and community!
 
Setup looks great but would recommend aspen bedding or newspaper (we use unprinted) instead of the woody substrate. Wood substrates can cause reactions with belly scales and are a little harder to keep clean - newspaper and/or aspen bedding will also help you keep better track of any digestion issues/fecal matter with new hatchlings.
 
Thanks for the compliments and the advice! I had seen that Aspen was the preferred substrate choice, but I didn't want to go and drastically change his new environment after he'd only spent a few days in it. I have already purchased a bag of aspen substrate to use when I clean his cage sometime next week, because I've also read (I can't remember if it was here though) that after they've settled in that getting your corn back on a feeding schedule is the most important thing, and Thursday would've been his next feed on the pet store's schedule, but it seemed too soon according to all the care sheets. I'm going to feed him today, and after hes had a few days to digest I'll change that substrate right out! Unless you guys think it's more important to go ahead and change the substrate immediately, you're the experienced owners after all :)
 
If you are feeding him in a separate container (recommended so that he/she does not ingest substrate if not on newspaper) then while you have him/her out you could go ahead and change it out - as long as you do it before feeding and provide plenty of hides and appropriate temperatures you should be okay. It is directly after feeding that you want to avoid handling and stress to avoid any possible issues with regurgitation. We feed every 5-7 days for hatchlings/yearlings and every 7-10 days for adults. We have noticed that some of the advice on those care sheets is incorrect so we recommend getting a good corn snake reference guide such as Bill and Kathy Love's book.
 
Oh, and I'm not sure how old he is. But I think he's too big to be a hatchling, I don't have a scale yet but he's about 1'4" long. The girl at the pet store said she was glad I was giving him a home, because she hadn't sold a corn snake in months, so I'm guessing maybe 4-6 months old? You all would know better than I.
 
Ok, I've found a rubbermaid to use as a feeding container and I'll change his substrate out while he's busy with his pinkies. How long after he eats should I wait to pick him up and put him back in his viv?
 
Great Looking Blizzard! WELCOME TO THE ADDICTION!!!!!!!!:grin01::grin01:
Did the Zilla Reptile Kit come with an under the tank heating pad? If not, I would recommend you get one... rated for a 20 gallon tank size. Heating pads are the better choice for warming Cornsnakes, not Heat Lamps.

Congrats!

Todd :cheers:
 
Thanks Todd, the kit came with a heat lamp, but I soon learned that a UTH was necessary so I purchased that along with a thermostat and thermometer and installed them all yesterday. I bought a 40 watt no-heat red bulb to use in the 150-watt lamp, just to have some lighting that won't bother him in there at night, but I only keep this on when I'm awake at night and it doest effect the temp of the viv at all.
 
Thank you, that's good to hear. I'm thawing his pinkies out now. I'm really nervous about his first feeding, I really hope he eats!
 
Todd beat me to saying, welcome to your new addiction! We bought our baby 2 months ago, and I'm so in love with her and so addicted to this website! :)

I'm super new to snakes, so if someone says something different, go with their advice! But as far as how long after eating to put back. I just wait until the food lump has stopped moving down her body. My girl gets antsy and will start to climb out of her feeding tub at that point. ...yes, it has a lid, but we like to watch! So, I just take her in the tub back to her viv and put the tub on the floor of the viv, tip, and let her crawl out. Once, she refused to crawl out, so I gently lifted her out. No problems. She picks out a hid and hangs out in there for a day and a half to two days. When she comes out and starts climbing again, I know we're good to go for handling. :)

Becca
 
The good news is, he ate. The bad news is that I definitely need some wussy gloves to get used to picking him up. he was coiled up tightly and every time I got close to him he'd get back in strike-pose and finally just got annoyed or scared and started slithering quickly around the cage. I ended up having to feed him in-viv, so I couldn't change his substrate, but I watched carefully and he didn't swallow anything except the pinkies. He went straight into his warm hide after swallowing, and I'm just going to leave him alone. Ill clean his cage and change the substrate in a few days, in the meantime, it's off to the glove store.
 
Just so you know, corn snakes don't even have real teeth so to speak.. especially not babies. Their teeth are more like that scratchy side of Velcro. Chances are even if he did bite you there's a good possibility he wont even break the skin. Most likely if he does strike at you he won't even land teeth, he's just acting tough trying to scare you off, remember to him you are a predator that wants to eat him.

As with most things in life, think of it from his point of view.. i have a few 'nippy' snakes, I just close my hand into a fist and move it closer to him, slowly, let them get your scent.. usually they calm down and try to slither off rather than strike, once they decide your fist is too big to eat and isn't trying to eat them, they tend try to slither away you can pick them up.
 
Agree with the above. Mine has struck at us a few times, she never even opened her mouth. She did taste me recently, when I hadn't washed my hands and apparently had some sort of food smell on me. It didn't break skin, and felt like less than a pin prick, and she's a year old....today! :)

My breeder said that if they go into the strike position when you go to pick them up, you can put the water dish or some other object in front of them and then just pick them up from behind. He should calm down after you pick him up. ....he may still be trying to get away from you, but unlikely to bite. But really, a bite is so no big deal, it may be better to just get it over with so you can feel confident grabbing him. :)

Becca
 
Thank you for the tip about the water dish, if i can keep him from darting his head around when I go to grab him then that will certainly help. And the reassurances too. I know it won't hurt if he strikes, but I have a hard time convincing my instinctual brain that. I just need a little time to get used to him. Before I went to the pet store, I hadn't held a snake since I was probably 10 years old. I was also worried about scaring him or hurting him by grabbing him in the wrong place (he was so coiled it was hard to tell where the middle was). The gloves will just let me get some practice without worrying about at least one of those things. (he just seems so delicate!)

Despite the fact his feeding was more stressful than necessary for both of us, he doesn't seem too affected. he spent a little time in his warm hide, then in the bonzai-top of his warm hide, and then finally slithered over to his cool hide and coiled up in there. Just glad I know he's an eager feeder!
 
If you do go the glove route I'd suggest something smooth, not fabric. In case he does bite you don't want his teeth getting caught in the fabric of the glove.
 
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