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New to corns

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Snakebear

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Hi all, just bought my first corn, a bloodred from a girl on craigslist. Not my first snake but my only other experience was with a ball python like 12+ years ago. I've done a lot of research on corns but I still have a few questions. First she told me he was an 07, is there a certain time of year they breed? He is a few months old I assume? He is about 18" long. Also there is a small kink near the end of his tail, pictured below. She told me he always had it. It doesn't seem to hurt him so if it was an injury its not fresh. Will he always show it or will it grow out? Also, I fed him his first live pinky, she had him on frozens. He ate it just fine but he didn't constrict it, will he learn too as he gets older? Doesn't matter much for pinky's but when he gets larger he won't be able to eat his prey alive haha. I know its better to feed them killed food but I really want to keep him on live prey. Also I read that juveniles can eat up to twice a week? Or even 2 pinkys once a week? Then eventually they will eat about once a week or like every ten days. I'm glad I got him, I like him quite a lot. Any input is much apreciated.

-snakebear
 
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He is beautiful, but why would you want to keep him on live prey, especially when you know thawed is better?
Don't you WANT what's best for your snake?
If he eats thawed, it is best to keep him on that.
Thawed are parasite free.
Cannot harm your snake by biting or scratching (as any prey animal will do when its fighting for its life)
Thawed prey is more easily digested, because the cell walls are broken down by freezing.
Plus thawed prey can be bought in bulk, and can save you money.
 
Also, I know they dont need a heat light but what lights are acceptable to use for making the tank look attractive. Right now I have one of those florescent energy saver type bulbs on him about 12-14 hours a day and nothing at night.
 
starsevol said:
He is beautiful, but why would you want to keep him on live prey, especially when you know thawed is better?
Don't you WANT what's best for your snake?
If he eats thawed, it is best to keep him on that.
Thawed are parasite free.
Cannot harm your snake by biting or scratching (as any prey animal will do when its fighting for its life)
Thawed prey is more easily digested, because the cell walls are broken down by freezing.
Plus thawed prey can be bought in bulk, and can save you money.
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Feeding live or frozen food is always going to be debated. I think people should respect the owner's choice.

That's a very pretty corn snake though and as for the kink it was most likely born with it and will most likely stay like that.
 
Snakebear said:
Well for one storing frozen mice is a no go. And two I'm a little morbid and I like watching them kill.
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Just my opinion but if you enjoy watching one animal kill another, you should seek help.
That's not normal.

Also, your pet should come first. His safety should come first. Thawed mice are safer for your pet.
 
Iguanagirl8662 said:
Feeding live or frozen food is always going to be debated. I think people should respect the owner's choice.

That's a very pretty corn snake though and as for the kink it was most likely born with it and will most likely stay like that.
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Sorry, I personally have no respect for someone who feeds live to get a sick thrill. If a snake refuses thawed, that's another story, but this snake was raised on thawed. This person is putting his own selfishness ahead of his snake's well being. Good keepers don't do that.
 
Wow. I don't get a sick thrill from it. It just fascinates me, it's nature(sort of). Snakes kill and eat it, that's what they do, it's not cruel. Awful quick of you to judge me as a bad pet owner...
 
starsevol said:
Sorry, I personally have no respect for someone who feeds live to get a sick thrill. If a snake refuses thawed, that's another story, but this snake was raised on thawed. This person is putting his own selfishness ahead of his snake's well being. Good keepers don't do that.
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I rescued my 2 corns they were raised on live food and I continue to do that: 1) cause I can't keep frozen mice in the freezer 2) they have always feed on live 3) They never had parasites from mice and were never hurt 4) wild snakes eat mice with no problems.

Yes I do have a problem with people that get a sick thrill out of it but it is natural for snakes to eat live mice. If the snake eats the food right away and you don't leave the mouse in there then normally there are no problems. Okay well I'm done with this talk about live or frozen it will go on forever. People have different views on things and other people should be respectful of them.
 
My snake was fed live before I got her. I continued to feed live for quite a while. Now I feed fresh-killed, it's the chance of having a larger mouse damage my snake that worries me.
 
Snakebear said:
Wow. I don't get a sick thrill from it. It just fascinates me, it's nature(sort of). Snakes kill and eat it, that's what they do, it's not cruel. Awful quick of you to judge me as a bad pet owner...
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In nature, the mouse has a chance to get away.
In nature, most baby animals die.
In nature snakes get eaten by birds of prey.
In nature, lions starve to death when they get old.
In nature wolves die of distempter.

If you want nature, turn on Wild Kingdom.

Thawed prey is safer and better for your pet.
If you refuse to do what's best for your pet, that makes you a bad pet owner.
You wouldnt expect your pet dog or cat to kill its own food.
Since your snake was raised on thawed, there is no reason to expect this pet to kill its own food either.
 
Iguanagirl8662 said:
I rescued my 2 corns they were raised on live food and I continue to do that: 1) cause I can't keep frozen mice in the freezer 2) they have always feed on live 3) They never had parasites from mice and were never hurt 4) wild snakes eat mice with no problems.

Yes I do have a problem with people that get a sick thrill out of it but it is natural for snakes to eat live mice. If the snake eats the food right away and you don't leave the mouse in there then normally there are no problems. Okay well I'm done with this talk about live or frozen it will go on forever. People have different views on things and other people should be respectful of them.
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Why can't you put mice in the freezer? They fit nicely right behind the ice cream! Seriously, they are just meat. Just like chicken or hamburg.

And just because your snakes have never been injured, doesnt mean they won't be. A bite can happen in a second. Your snake could lose an eye and you wouldnt be fast enough to stop it. As with any risky husbandry, there's never a problem....until there's a problem.
 
starsevol said:
In nature, the mouse has a chance to get away.
In nature, most baby animals die.
In nature snakes get eaten by birds of prey.
In nature, lions starve to death when they get old.
In nature wolves die of distempter.

If you want nature, turn on Wild Kingdom.

Thawed prey is safer and better for your pet.
If you refuse to do what's best for your pet, that makes you a bad pet owner.
You wouldnt expect your pet dog or cat to kill its own food.
Since your snake was raised on thawed, there is no reason to expect this pet to kill its own food either.
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Look we all understand your point, but you do not have to be nasty about it. This forum is to help people not to call names. So we would all appreciate it that if you can't be nice that you don't ansewr.
 
You're right I'm a horrible pet owner and person for that matter....


Anyway can we get back on subject cause the more I know the better I can take care of my snake.
 
Iguanagirl8662 said:
Look we all understand your point, but you do not have to be nasty about it. This forum is to help people not to call names. So we would all appreciate it that if you can't be nice that you don't ansewr.
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I'm stating facts. Bad pet owners put the welfare of their pets second to any number of things...money...convienience...sick thrills...you name it. But the facts are the facts. If you don't do what's best for your animal, there really is only one name that applies.

This forum puts the welfare of animals first. And if owners do stupid or risky things, they get called on it. Risking your snake getting bitten or losing an eye for no good reason is stupid and risky, and I will say so.
 
Not point in arguing with nasty people.

So anyhow back to your question about the light. Corns normally come out at night so they don't need a light but if you want one you can use anything as long as the tank doesn't get to hot.
 
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